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Ingleside, TX(Zone 9a)

Here is my plumeria. I got it about 4 months ago. It has really grown, but it has never bloomed. Is it too young? Is it the wrong time of year? What do I need to take really good care of it? Any advice would be appreciated!

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Hi - Were you told what variety it is? it looks like it might be a seedling. A seedling won't bloom for several seasons yet.
I suggest that you put it in a bigger pot also.

Baton Rouge, LA

There appear to be a few trees in the area. Are you sure it is getting enough sun?

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

I see a lot of new green growth on it! It looks great and looks exactly as it should. It looks like it put on growth this year, and so perhaps it will flower for you next year, given full sun and plenty of water and fertilizer. You can re-pot in the spring if it is rootbound, but it doesn't look rootbound to me.

The weather will be getting cooler soon, and since you are in Zone 9a, you will need to bring your plumeria inside for the winter or in to your greenhouse. There is so much information which I compiled in the FAQ sticky thread on potting soil, general care, fertilizer, overwintering, etc. I think many of your questions on care will be answered by checking out that thread. Cuttings can flower as they are rooting or shortly thereafter, or they will put on growth the first year and bloom the second year, given the proper care.

Ingleside, TX(Zone 9a)

Thank you so much Clare! I am so excited about the plumeria! The aroma will bring back some wonderful memories of Hawaii! That was a looong time ago...but the smells still linger..if only in my mind..Thanks again..I will learn from your expertise!

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

Looking at your picture the sun is off to the left!!
The oak in the background (looks like a oak) is leaning to the left.
The SEEDLING which hetty is correct is also leaning to the left..
Move her out to open sun and looking at the bottom leaves i see traces of rust..
I would snip those 3 to 4 leaves off and check the others underside for any orange spores..
Full sun and like Clare said it will take 3 to 4 years average assuming you have her in 6 hours of full sun!!
OH btw get her away from that Oak!!
Look at the ground around that oak whats missing???
Grass!!!
That is because oaks rob nitrogen from the soil and their droppings are high in acid just like pines..
Move her away from there...
Gardenia's like alot of acid :)

Quoting:
Plumies will always lean towards the sun or the brightest light!


This message was edited Sep 16, 2006 2:38 AM

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Robert and Hetty might be right that it is a seedling given the way the trunk looks. If Robert and Hetty are right that it is a seedling, then you probably have about two years to go until it blooms, given ideal conditions. It could even take longer to bloom. Where did you get this plumeria? It could bloom any color or any combinations of color.

This message was edited Sep 16, 2006 10:40 AM

Ingleside, TX(Zone 9a)

I got the plumeria from my fave local nursery. I am sorta freakin out by yall saying it's a seedling! If THIS is a seedling..I can only imagine it at maturity! I just hope I can take care of it properly..with yalls guidance of course!..Clare, I sent you another d-mail...Oh! I got rid of the leaves like..umm..one of yall told me..AND I moved it to sunnier spot..Also..I got ORGANIC goodies today..I have been using chemical pesticides and all on my plants..I just do NOT want to continue doing that! Thanks again yall!!

Randa(like a panda!)

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Randa, which leaves did you get rid of? I don't think anyone told you to remove the leaves, did they? I rarely check my dmail anymore because I prefer to anwer questions out in the forums if I am able to and because I get too much junk dmail from nonsubscribers so feel free to post your questions here.

Ingleside, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes..Clare. Go back about 3 replies..or up..from the last your wrote..Dang..I feel like I have done the wrong thing no matter what. I am NOT a pro. I am just a gal who stumbled into gardening and then stumbled on to here..I know I have a lot to learn..However, I am not totally out of the loop. For some reason..I feel a bit..I dont know..Never mind..I am trying..trying to enjoy my plants..I dont plan to make a career out of it..Just a hobby..I am sorry..I dont mean to be a bother..Thanks, though for the advice..Have a nice night..

"I would snip those 3 to 4 leaves off and check the others underside for any orange spores.." courtesy lopaka

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Randa, I didn't see Robert's advice to snip the leaves off. Yes, if you have rust (orange spores) beneath the leaves, then definitely cut them off and spray with a fungicide. We are all just hobbists here, and you really can't do the wrong thing with these plants if you have a little bit of knowledge about horticulture. If you read the FAQ's and refer to it often, you really can't go wrong. Feel free to ask questions here anytime! We are all learning here. This is a super friendly place with no dumping on each other so relax and enjoy it!

Edited to fix spelling.

This message was edited Sep 17, 2006 6:35 PM

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

Yeah like Clare said don't worry..
Don't baby them either just make sure they stay warm and sunny and make sure
she doesn't get thirsty..
I have snip leaves off many seedlings it won't hurt them they are rooted pretty well..
Assuming she is a seedling hehe!
FULL SUN!
:)

This message was edited Sep 18, 2006 4:00 AM

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

If size is a concern
Read up on grafting
I cut the top 10 inches off of my tall ones and graft them back onto the bottom
I then have a centercut to sell root or share.

Ingleside, TX(Zone 9a)

Hi Yall! Sorry I havent responded! My Momma flew in on Monday..had to come see her new great-grandbaby! My grand-daughter, Kali..Anyway..Thanks so much for the info. But, as usual, I have a question. Ok, I trimmed the leaves with the rust. NOW, I have another with it..Only one. It showed up after the DELUGE we got down here this past week.
Also, and I am sorry yall!!..When I click on FAQ, it takes me to a page that is general stuff..How do I find the one on Plumerias or whatever I am looking for. Clare was kind enough to give me a link and I use it a lot..(thanks Clare)..I just get sorta lost..My hubby teases me..My name is Randa..He says sometimes it seems more like...Ran-duuuhhhh!!LOL! He is only playing..He is a great guy..but he is also right! LOL!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Randa,

When you click on the Plumerias Forum, it is the thread at the very top. They call it a "sticky thread" because it stays right at the very top no matter how many posts are replied to and no matter how many new threads are started. It will always be at the very top.

Yes, rust is definitely ugly-looking and happens this time of year, especially with all the rain. You can just remove the most affected leaves and spray with a fungicide if you wish, or you can just leave the rust the way it is. The leaves are about to fall off naturally anyway with colder weather coming, and the rust won't hurt the plumie if you just want to leave it. Here are the links about rust from the FAQ's:

Rust:
http://www.plumeria101.com/problems/rust.html
http://www.bspp.org.uk/ndr/july2005/2005-27.asp
http://www.theplumeriasociety.org/dyncat.cfm?catid=2015

FAQ Link: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/599185/

Ingleside, TX(Zone 9a)

Oooh ok! Thanks for sharing that. I may have read it and forgot. Happens more than I care to admit! I know I had seen numerous times that term.."sticky thread"..I wasnt sure what it meant. I dont know WHEN it will cool off here. Two years ago we set a record for the hottest October! Then, it snowed here..First time in almost 100 years!! Ya just never know. They are saying it will cool off next week..Low 60s..Highs Low 80s. Shoot girl! That's darn near cool enough for the chimenea! Thanks again for all the info. I did go ahead and trim two more leaves. I used an insecticidal soap. Is this what you would do? Or WOULD you do as far as treatment..like brand or whatever??

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

We have a few growers in Texas here. Paula, the PSA (Plumeria Society of America) director, lives in Texas and digs hers up in November around Thanksgiving, I think. There are a few good links on overwintering in the sticky thread if you want to check it out.

When I had rust, I just pulled off the affected leaves and sprayed the rest with with Fungicide3, which is found in a blue bottle at Home Depot. It is a miticide, insecticide, and fungicide and seems to work well for the light cases that we get here sometimes. Bayleton is a product that prevents and treats rust and is used often by people who live in areas that are more prone to rust. I know that there is a lawn product at Home Depot that is supposed to work. Any broad-based fungicide should work fine.

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