Crinum

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Hello All.

I've had this unidentified Crinum Lily for nearly twenty years. It blooms regularly and they are VERY large and showy. They also have a delightful fragrance that fills the whole house. Does anyone have any thoughts on which species/variety of Crinum I have?

I'll post more pics as the flowers open in the coming days.

Erick

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Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Ellen Bosenquet (I think that is how it is spelled) perhaps?

norman, OK(Zone 7a)

It looks like crinum amabile or crinum augustum to me.
See http//crinum.iconx.com/index.html

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Thank you both very much. I'll check out those possibilities.

Erick

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Hello All.

Just for fun, here are the gorgeous open flowers. They are highly fragrant.

Erick

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Panhandle, FL(Zone 8a)

That is one beautiful flower! I love all the windows that your plants live near!

Louisville, KY

You should try this site. I grow this exact form it maybe one of the natural hybrids shown in the bottom section. I am not yet exactly sure which form it is. Mine has a very nice bubble gum smell when they open up.
http://www.crinum.org/crinpics/ch_4.html

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Well, it is certainly NOT Ellen Bosenquet but it is lovely.

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

Is this Ellen Bosenquet? That's the name I have on it but I know how things can be mis-named.

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Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

I think so; did you get it from the MG Symposium plant sale? That is where mine came from a few years ago.

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

Yes, I'm there every year.

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Thank you Brian. That is a very interesting site. From the flowers alone, I'm thinking that mine might be C. augustum. The plant I got my two from as offsets about twelve years ago was easily twelve feet tall and in the form of a tree with a large central trunk. I have mine on a south-facing porch and they bloom several times a year. They are easy to grow - no bugs, avg water needs and forgiving of neglect.

Erick

Bessemer City, NC(Zone 7b)

Erick~

It's a beauty! Great to hear that this one grows well indoors.

Could you post a close-up of the flowers, pretty-please?

I'm a Crinum fan and want to look closer. :-)

Robert.

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

The most frequently seen crinum hybrids in the light-red to wine-red catagory are:
Birthday Party, Bradley, carnival, Circus, Ellen Bosanquet (which neither of these pictures are), Elizabeth Traub, Garden Party, George Harwood, Lolita (which looks like yours Linda), Louis Bosanquet, Mardi Gras, Midway, Mystery, and Thaddeus Howard (which is rare). Neither one of these look like a species, Carnival, or Ellen Bosanquet to me: and Erick yours doesn't look like Lolita--but yours looks like it could be Linda. Hopefully this list narrows it down and you can google images of them. I'm looking at them in a book but I realize that doesn't help ya'll--lol.
Debbie

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

I've looked at several websites. There are such small differences in many of them, what identifies one from the other? I'll have to go out again and check the marker (if I can still read it).

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Often size of the plant Linda, bloom size, and the way the flowers are held up on the scapes, scape length too.

Thomasville, GA(Zone 8b)

Debbie

it's me again.

You're a crinum lover, too?

uh-oh

plantnutga

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Yeah Plantnutga--
I'm your basic plant collector here. Esp. native plants from North America. There's loads of plants I know nothing about, but a few I know quite a bit about. Mostly Louisiana Iris: but also Crinum, all the bulbs that grow well here and are native/adapted/naturalized, and the native annuals and perennials that work well in a garden setting, and rangoon creepers.
Deb

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

I went and checked the label (not an easy task at this time of year). It reads Ellen Bosanquet. The plant was purchased from Riverbanks Botanical Gardens 2 years ago. Here's another view.

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

closer view

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

I also have this one from Riverbanks that I don't know the name

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Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Beautiful photos Linda. Did you ever know the late Jim Porter? He and Jenks planted a whole crinum garden at Riverbanks once. It was along the walk by the back door to the auditorium (near the patio). Don't know if it is still there or not. They were testing different cultivars to see how they did in the Midlands.
Have you seen Jenk's website? He is selling some interesting cultivars. alice

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

LOL, we were posting at the same time. I have that one too so I guess I got it at RB. Is the flower stalk really tall? It might be Mrs. James Hendrey. I'll try and find a picture of mine.

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

That 3rd one is gorgeous Linda! I'm partial to the pinks myself. If it spits out some seeds I would love to trade you for them.
Debbie

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

Hi Deb, I've had it 4 years and never saw seeds, I do have a habit of cutting off the flowers when they've wilted then cutting off the stalk when the whole thing finishes so that all of the energy goes back to the bulb. Guess it never has a chance to make seeds. So far I haven't seen any pups either but I'll keep an eye out.

Alice, I never met Jim Porter but I have met Jenks. He has spoken to our MG/SCMMGA groups several time and I know he has quite a large collection of crinum. I wanted his 'Regina's Disco Lounge' but it sold out before I could get one. There are still quite a few of his growing in the RBG.

http://www.bulbsociety.org/GALLERY_OF_THE_WORLDS_BULBS/GRAPHICS/Crinum/CrinumCultivarlist.shtml

see if this will open. Andy Cabe (who has lots of cultivars posted here) is curator of horticulture at RBG

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

oops

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

another oops

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

and another

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

that's all folks

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St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Robert,

I am sorry, but my crimins have finished blooming and the flowers are in no condition to display. They will bloom again in the next couple months, I'm sure.

Erick

Bessemer City, NC(Zone 7b)

:-(

Thanks anyway. Looking forward to seeing more on the next go-round.

Robert.

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

I am coveting White Queen from Yucca Do right now. It is the 6th one down on this page.

http://www.yuccado.com/displayengine

All the crinums are beautiful that you've all posted.
I've got a question that's different from the subject.

Erick, in your second picture, what is the name of the thorny plant? I just love it. It wouldn't happen to be a crown of thorns that you've pruned to grow tall would it? I've been looking through my books and can't find anything that's just like it. Thanks

Bessemer City, NC(Zone 7b)

ardesia~

I covet "White Queen" too!! Just wonderful!

BTW-- Luther Burbank did the original cross.

Robert.

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

GSkinner,

That thorny plant is actually a Madagascar Palm (Pachypodium sp.). It's approximately twenty years old and does great on my porch. It requires almost no care.

Erick

Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

Lovely! You grow this in the house? Wow!

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Hello aprilwillis.

Yes, indeed. I am fortunately to have a south-facing porch with huge windows!

Erick

Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

Wow! I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it!
Erick, you da man!

Thomasville, GA(Zone 8b)

I'm glad to see there are so many crinum fans, also it makes me feel good to see words like 'covet' used to refer to one

I, too, have been lusting in my heart over 'White Queen'

plantnutga

Raleigh, NC(Zone 7b)

I would love to get my hands on a Queen Emma. They are hard to find, the only place I have seen them for sale is that weird TyTy nursery in Ga.

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