Anyone heard from her? I wrote her an email today but no response as of yet... Anybody else know?
Hey, where's Allison?
From what I have heard she isn't answering dmails....I wonder why!!!
Joanne
Well, Allison, if you are out there, I miss you and hope you are feeling all right. I also hope you're back on the AV forum soon, since you've been so good to so many of us!!
Hugs,
Jacki
Me too!
Missing you, Allison.
I've noticed too, that Lorry has been gone a while.
Hope all's well with both of them?!
Aww! I haven't been on much but I hope Allison is OK.
I did hear from Lorry.... She has been extremely busy catching up on things since they got back from a lovely vacation. Also, they just took in another pup, and I'm sure that's keeping things lively! But she and Chris are doing fine.
I think that with trying to sell and pack so many plants on top of their moving plans, Allison may just be overwhelmed. Even before this recent stuff, she wasn't answering Dmails with her usual promptness. I know there are a lot of people waiting for boxes from her, and I hope everything works out. At least the heat wave seems to have passed, so plants sent out now won't get hit with such extreme conditions. I know we're all hoping that her health hasn't taken a sudden downturn.
I think they're getting ready to move too??? The classified forum has a listing of hers, trying to sell their mobile home as they've purchased another one. So, hopefully she's fine, and just busy packing and moving!
Thanks for the update on Lorry, critter.....will keep watching to see if anyone hears from Allison!
I understood that the move was going to take quite some time...(quite a bit of remodeling to be done first) but I hope that's the reason she's been 'scarce' lately!
I'm sure she is fine but understandably upset with the recent problem on the list. I was at her house last week and she was busy trying to pack up boxes. She can only do it when she is having a "good" spell so sometimes it takes awhile to get out.
Jan...
This message was edited Aug 14, 2006 12:38 PM
From what I have heard, Allison has had her name removed from Dave's Garden. Since all of this slandering of her name has been going on, she just could not take it anymore. I am trying to get her to stay but I'm not sure what she is going to do. I really hope that she decides to come back but right now she wants no part of DG since she continues to be slandered.
Jesse
I heard Allison left Daves too.And I miss her already, I don't know what went on to cause her to leave but its too bad that it came to her leaving after she was so generous to all of us.I really enjoyed Allisons pictures, advise,and friendship.
Allison,please come back!
Too bad the wrong person felt they had to leave.
This message was edited Aug 15, 2006 9:42 AM
Yes, thanks to Allison's generous gifts, I have many AV's in bloom at home and at work.
I miss her, too!
Susan,
I'm sure it is beautiful and I know if Allison had it, she would be more than happy to share with everyone.
You know, I just want to say how very sad I feel about the state of this forum right now. One of the things I always loved about it was the sense of sharing, friendship and generosity that prevailed. Not always the case with other forums I've been on where there was sniping and put downs and nasty attitudes.
I'm kinda surprised at how deeply I feel the loss of the forum as we knew it! I hope that in time, things will sort themselves out somehow. But I don't like the feeling I have when I see all these new posts that seem intent on dominating the entire forum and pushing this whole conflict off the page.
Just feels icky now...:(
Jacki
*sigh*
It's a shame that this happened between two people who I really enjoy on this forum. And it's a shame that anybody feels they have to leave a group that appreciates them so because they are having problems with one other person. I was hoping that nobody would leave over this, that it could be like two family members who are so mad one another that they are not speaking, yet they both come to the family reunion picnic and have a wonderful time with everybody else.
Whatever happens between Allison and Joanne, let's continue our efforts not to let this spill over and spoil the friendly tone of this forum. Posts to show support and appreciation are fine, but I'm so nervous that this sort of thread will turn into bad mouthing and taking sides.... So thanks to everyone for taking care not to let that happen!
Allison is still on the member list, so I'm hoping she will maybe just take a break or lurk for a while and then decide to return.
I too want Allison to come back and I agree w/ budgielover - the wrong person left.
I think it is absolutely shameful that anyone would be so ungrateful and spiteful as to post slanderous ramblings about Allison on an internet blog. I have only been on the AV forum for a few months but I have seen from the beginning that Allison is extremely generous with her AVs. Hopefully, she will reconsider and rejoin her DG "family".
I'm sorry, I just needed to express my opinion and now I'm done... Play ball.....
This message was edited Aug 15, 2006 10:39 AM
Jacki, I read your post after I'd sent mine.... after several days when posts to this forum seemed to be reduced, I appreciate any efforts to push this conflict off the front page!
I miss Allison too, and I would miss Joanne if she left, and I am *not* going to take sides here.... If that makes me seem unsupportive, well, I choose to think I am being supportive of our forum as a whole.
I think that with a little effort, we can get back to discussing and sharing our love of AVs and other gessies. I don't think a conflict between two people, no matter how beloved, should be permitted to change the tone of the whole forum.... but unless we refuse to let it happen, we will indeed lose the forum as we knew it. We can choose to let this mess remain a problem where two of our members are angry and upset with one another, or we can let it escalate and spill over to affect things here for a long time. But it is a choice.
It's also Allison's choice to leave or not over this. The "wong person" did not leave. Nobody had to leave. I don't think either of them are saying things that they believe to be untrue, and I'd rather have negative stuff posted on a blog than gone into at length on a feedback. Sometimes, even when the people involved can't agree to disagree, the rest of us have to agree to let them disagree and move on!
Please, let's choose to get back to "business as usual" and hope that Allison will rejoin us once this is no longer front page news.
Critter,
I wish I could take the middle of the road and it is unfortunate that 2 members have had a problem. The problem I have is when one of those members feels they have a right to take that problem public and to slander someone's rep who has been nothing but kind and generous to everyone on this forum, especially when they take the attitude that they have done nothing wrong. Taking over the forum with a bunch of posts and pictures to push it off the front page will not undo the hurt that's been done. Sorry I can't be as forgiving as others but I will agree to move on.
*** Sigh***
This message was edited Aug 15, 2006 11:18 AM
You know, when I joined in on this forum, I was thrilled with how friendly and helpful everyone was. I have seen this type of conflict on other forums, and it's not pretty.
I, personally did not witness any slandering, and I hate to see people taking sides as well. Allison and Joanne are two great peeps who unfortunately had a misunderstanding. It's a shame, but it's also so very human. I agree wholeheartly with Jill, and hope we can get past this and get on with what this forum is all about...enjoying and sharing our love of African Violets and Gesneriads.
Don
I am not taking sides, or commenting on this thead at all except to say that I have asked admin to either remove or lock it.
Janis
Remove or lock what?
There were alot of accusations made on her blog including those from "Anonymous" in "Georgia" As I have recently clarified with Terry about someone who approached me to sell them plants which I had up for trade, "A member cannot solicit sales from any forum other than the "classified ads" but if someone d-mails you first and offers to purchase a plant, you are free to sell it to them. When someone "gifts" you with a plant, it is yours to do with as you see fit. If Allison was just taking plants to resell it would be unethical but as she was selling out her entire collection, there was nothing unethical about it. I think she just didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Putting aside the conflict between the two members......the title/topic of *this* particular thread is "Hey, Where's Allison?"
I don't understand why, if you've nothing to add to that topic...you don't simply *avoid* the thread?
When I first read this particular thread....I had no idea what was going on 'in the background', and I was curious as to where Allison was, too!
Don...the thread(s) that were potentially 'slanderous' have since been removed from the forum altogether.
Gardengirl1204....locking a thread means that one can no longer post to it.
Removing it means just that.....completely removing it from the forum.
I think anybody who is interested in the details of the conflict can go to Joanne's blog or email Allison. We do not need to keep rehashing it here. Again, not taking sides, but it is not clear to me that there is only one right or wrong person here.
Maybe we do need to have this thread removed before we can all move on...
Okay all you self righteous people I never disputed the fact that this person is generous at all. I am upset because she has refused to refund my 135.00 US for plants not shipped.
As for the blog, it is PRIVATE and this is the ONLY place I have posted the URL and that was only because I was called a lier (not my spelling) and a trouble maker.
Give me money money back and I will be happy!
Now tell me what you would do if someone refused to give you your money back....I suppose you would say thank you very much and turn the other cheek!!!!
Joanne
I'm locking this thread because continuing the conversation is not going to resolve this matter, and deleting it is like plucking a dandelion that's gone to seed - a dozen others will rise in its place.
Here's something I wrote a while back (not quite verbatim) when two individuals on another forum let their grievances become public.
There's nothing much we (as admins) can do to rectify this issue - we can't make people like each other. We can only encourage both parties to basically ignore one another if they can't get along.
Forums are easier than real life in that regard - it is quite possible for two individuals to politely ignore one another - they can read over the other person's posts, and move to another thread or refuse to engage in conversation with one another. When done with grace and tact, no one else has to be aware of or made uncomfortable by the personal conflict.
Unfortunately, most people don't choose to handle situations by taking that high road, and this is a prime example. These individuals have let their dislikes be made known, and others soon feel compelled to pick sides. Backchannel griping and hyper-analyzing of the "other side's" words in every post eventually leads to even greater rifts and outright confrontations as we've seen here.
It may be too late to hope for actual fence-mending, but perhaps if everyone forced themselves to politely and kindly adhere to the adge "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything" (both within the forums and in private messages), it would go a long way towards these individuals learning to peacefully co-exist with one another in this forum.
And "Anonymous" from Georgia (who was trying real hard to defend herself and still be accepted on this list - an impossible thing to do) got caught right in the middle because I stood up for what was right and was virtually bombarded with insulting, abusive messages thru dmail and paypal. I've received nasty messages, been called names and have been given a negative rating. So I fought back. I think you would have also.