I 'd like to know who the hybridizer is of pink perfection, Not pink perfektion, but pink perfection.
I was told it was a double pink
Does it open up white at first? does it often not have a double flower? Does it even exsist. I thought I saw it on ebay for sale once and it went high dollar and was listed as a double pink.
I'd like to know, as I know of one that is blooming single flowers and started out white. and another that is blooming all pink single flowers.
What is the story with Pink Perfection.
Anybody know?
kathy
Information on Pink Perfection
I have only heard of Pink Perfektion which is double/triple dark pink.
If you saw what you think was pink perfection ???? Probably you did .
Do you know how many people slap a name willy-nilly on any brug seedling as soon as it blooms and
they can get a picture of it ? Just to put it on ebay to see who will take the bait ?
Most are are not heard of again.
remember ........ buyer beware !
Please only buy brugs from reputable people or growers.
Best of luck to you
I know what you mean scooter, I'm very leary of buying brugs off ebay. They just don't realize what they do for all of us brug lovers when they sell something wrong and it's traded and traded and gosh, it could go on and on LOL
I have heard back from the person I received it from , and she said it wasn't a double pink. I may have seen pink perfektion on ebay , not really sure now.
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Some people are only interested in MONEY and throw honesty and morality out the window with the dish water.
A good grower will grow a seedling 2 to 3 years to be sure the brug is not going to change with maturity.
So sorry for your disappointment Kathy.
B. x candida 'Pink Perfection' is a German hybrid released in 2002 and created by Anne Kirchner-Abel.
Its often double, but sometimes also triple.
Lene and I have grown it for a few years, but have different opinions on the quality of the flowers.
The plant itself are a medium fast grower and even if it only tend to house a few spitermites, it is susceptible to dwarfmites, that cripples the buds and top leaves. That is a big minus in my book, but others live with it fine :)
The flowers themself start out white, but already the first day, the pink toning begin to take over. In a few days it becomes rich pink. The flowers usually last for 5-6 days, before they begin to get brown spots.
All in all its beautiful and have a nice smell.
Personally I am only growing it for fun. It will never make it as a hybridizer plant ... in my stock, it is :) The flowers, even though beautiful and rich scented, have a strong tendency to be slit up in the side or entirely shredded ... like we know it from another hybrid,'Shredded White Fantasy'.
I prefer wellformed flowers. Lene loves them, both well formed or shredded and she is crazy about everything on 'Pink Perfection'.
All in all, there are different opinions on the hybrid and that is, how it should be. My opinion is only one in a wide spectrum of blending nuances :)
This is an indoor picture
If you put this number in the eBay search engine 220002756548 You'll see the last one sold there - Pink Perfektion. Love the dark pink color.
I don't recall seeing a Pink Perfection on eBay, but I don't check there every day, so I might have missed it. I'd be more likely to guess it was a slap on label rather than a real registered brug. I doubt the registry would except something so close to Pink Perfektion. It's just different spellings that mean the same thing, and it'd be too confusing.
Picture from day two also. One of the shredded flowers.
I am sorry, if someone have sold you another hybrid going under the name 'Pink Perfection'. Unfortunately it happens from time to time of various reasons, that hybrids names are taken lightly and the buyer is disappointed. There are several good people in the US and in Canada, that are taking the hybrids names very serious and here you will not get disappointed. The prices are also reasonable :)
Tonny
Tonny, you refer to your plant as Pink Perfection. Do you really mean Pink Perfektion? I am just a tad confused.
Tussee
Yes :) Are there more, that this one?
You will find the hybrid, that I refer to at this link:
http://www.kirchner-abel.de/site/home.htm
When you enter the site, press the link, that say 'Neuzüchtungen'. When the page appear, press 'Neuzüchtungen und aus Duisburg 2002' and it should be at the bottom of the page :)
Tonny
Just had to correct the link text
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Pink Perfekton is awesome! Thank you for the link Tonny.
Tussee
Tonny what are dwarfmites?
Ruth
Pink Perfektion is not a registered brugmansia. The term registered when it comes to Ebay sales is used to impress and suggest quality for $$$$ purposes and to draw attention to the registry websites. Registered "does not" .... repeat .... "does not" mean or equal quality. It just means the name is put on a list somewhere to be protected against anyone else using it. In reality as long as a brug is in circulation the name is considered safe no matter if it is registered or not.
It's not just Brug registries, but most registries in general.
There are very few registries in the world that will equate to quality. Most infamous is our own AKC, and various registries for horses. For them it means somebody did the paperwork correctly, and most importantly paid the fee. The pups or foals themselves could be a genetic fault nightmare.
There were a few canine registries that didn't register until the pedigree was submitted, but more importantly the dog had to pass a 2 page Vet exam before being considered for registration. Many no longer exist as it is much easier to do things poorly, and more are interested in profit rather than keeping a breed healthy.
That being said, if I bred a quality brug that was different from others I would register it. It's a matter of keeping the record of it's lines for others, since I won't always be around. If it looked like a dozen others I wouldn't name it at all. Just one woman's opinion here.
Wow! I didn't know that about horses. I thought that for sure would mean quality when critters are involved. Very interesting.
Your one woman's opinion is a very wise one. And that's my one womans opinion. lol!
Unfortunately you don't even have to have all the history to register. History and Registry are two different things.
ps ... everything looks alike to me. I doubt I'll ever register anything cause there's not much hope for anything unique. I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that I'll be the first to create a 10 skirted purple brug ... hee!
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Am I hearing you right Tonny? It can be a double and sometimes triple (pink perfection ) Yours is beautiful.
It could have very well been pink perfektion on ebay that I saw instead of pink perfection. I am thrilled t hat all is not all lost. I'll have to grow it out for a while and see what it does,
I so appreciate the pick me up here. I'm thrilled
kathy
I am confused, Tonny, is your plant pink perfection or pink perfektion. Your post was confusing then when I read tussie's post I really wasn't sure, cause your yes didn't clarify to me which brug you posted a picture of.
So , please someone clarify if tonny's pictures are pink perfection or pink perfektion. Cause I thought pink perfektion was alot darker than those two pictures up there?
kathy
Kathy there is only one Pink Perfektion (correct spelling). There is not a brug named Pink Perfection. Oddly enough Perfection is just a spelling boo boo :).
Flower colors can lighten or darken depending on the age of the flower, time of year (cool weather and hot weather), and camera lighting.
Hope this helps. :)
OH yes, I should clear this up, I didn't purchase this brug, I traded for it, but the person isn't on daves, and she said she didn't know if it was double or single, It was a very big misunderstanding on my part, we have no hard feelings, and she didn't lie about it.
Thanks veech for clearing this up. Whew, I'm glad this is over now LOL
I can dump it and go on LOL
kathy
Thank you again for all I have learned on this thread. Joan
Your welcome, I learned alot too LOL,
never too old a brug aholic to learn these days
I have a question.
Does PINK PERFEKTION ever bloom single? in the beginning does she bloom single blooms, o ver time blooming doubles and triples?
Just wondering.
kathy
not that I have seen ;-)))
Kathy, I am rooting you got a double. No matter what I would love to see pictures.
Blessings,
Sandy ^8^
thanks for all the help guys, I appreciate it.
Or rather Gals.
There is a canna called Pink Perfection...but not a brug called that with this spelling that I know of only Pink Perfektion brug I saw on ebay a couple of times
I'll never register a brug but everything that lives here, for any length of time, gets a name, could be 'the buggy one on the end' but, if they stay, we call them something...
I did have one that I nick-named "Compost Starter" until I got rid of it. I could have also named it "Oh, my aching back" when I tried to pull it out. Ouch!
I have dreams of getting something worthy of a name here someday, but that's all it is today.
Hahaha, mpabbott1, that's funny!! 'Ouch' is a great name, and appropriate...
Lol Sherry, we name everything also. Our cars and home have names,we use a generic name for the squirrels and another for the robins - the list goes on and on.
Tussee
Well, naming your brugs certain names is fine, but when a person receives one in a trade thinkin it's a real named brug, like pink perfection, then that person trades it as pink perfection, spreading a false named brug, makes life difficult on those who collect brugs ,
Not that you would do that, but we are talking about pink perfection, having that name stuck to it like that, is just down right wrong.
Enough said!!!
kathy
Please forgive me, kathy_ann, I did not intend to be flippant and I did not intend to downplay your remarks regarding named brugs and the selling of counterfeit named brugs. I TOTALLY agree - it is absolutely awful, past awful, when one represents a brug as being another and I cannot fathom the untruthfulness of one that would do such. I sincerely regret that I might have created an awkward or hurtful situation for you and others that might have replied to my remarks...
no appologies needed .
Well , i did another seach and there is a brug name pink perfection, blooms are pink and it says it blooms single and sometimes double. it was on a german web site
would you post that link please.
kathy
Chucking in my 2 cents worth from the point of view of the international naming rules......
I could only find 'Pink Perfection' on a French site. I suspect its a 'translation' there from the german spelling Perfektion. Under the International rules, it is incorrect practice to translate cultivar names: they remain in the language in which they were established. Translating creates the misleading impression of a different and new name.
Vee is quite right that 'Pink Perfektion' is not registered, but if it appears in print with a description - possibly in one of Ann K-A's books (which I don't have to check) - it is a formally established name that should be incorporated into registries.
Given the existence of the name Brugmansia 'Pink Perfektion', 'Pink Perfection' is not acceptable under the Int'l rules as a name for another cv in Brugmansia for the reason that has led to this thread and already been pointed out! Too confusing.
Of course none of this has any impact on the charlatans who slap made up names onto anything they want to peddle on ebay, as has also been already said!!!
Scooterbug has it: don't buy on ebay unless you know and trust the seller!
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In reality if a brug has not been published in hardcopy, but is in circulation, the ICRA is not going to accept a new cv given the same name in order to help avoid confusion. In general and in a round-a-bout way unregistered properly named brugs are safe ... correct?
This is a fraught question Vee [you are very good at putting your finger on these lol]!
When is circulation circulation? Is a plant known to 100 enthusiasts substantially more in circulation than one known to 10?
Or is a plant known to 100,000 or a million general gardeners really in circulation compared to one known to 100 enthusiasts which is **arguably** not really 'in circulation' at all - at least in the big world-wide gardening picture. [just using 100 as an arbitrary small figure]
The Code makes provision for preserving existing usage of names, but it does not define what existing usage is [i.e. usage by whom?] or the circumstances in which steps to preserve existing usage should be invoked.
I am having discussion on just this topic with one of my mates on the IUBS Commission for the Nomenclature of Cultivated Plants. I will report back!
This message was edited Aug 10, 2006 9:19 AM