Hawkweed

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

Did a dumb thing at the nursery the other day. I bought plants! And now I have to plant them! And to make matters worse, I made an impulse buy and I know zilch about the plant! I bought two plants that were tagged hawkweed. One went further to say Hieracium lanatum...the other just said hawkweed. Can anyone tell me anything about hawkweed?

Lindsay, OK(Zone 7a)

RUN! (lol)

This is one bad plant... http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=HIPI not bad here yet but the talk I have heard is it is coming.

That said it should be fine if you really really really deadhead,

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

Why in the world was The Arbor Gate selling it, I wonder?

Boerne new zone 30, TX(Zone 8b)

I can't believe that a nursery sold that plant. What were they thinking?

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

I think I need to give them a little call......

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Maybe call in person with the plant and get your money back!

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

Two plants - two different hawkweeds. I just figured it was a native that I hadn't heard about....

Boerne new zone 30, TX(Zone 8b)

hey my roomate just reminded me... most of the nurserys sell pampas grass and it is considered invasive in Texas and they have all kinds of posts on native lists asking NOT to plant it. It was introduced to texas and is NOT a native.

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

I am not a "strictly native" gardener. If it does well, and I don't have to spray it, and I like it, it just may end up in my garden. I just thought that being sold at Arbor Gate, and not resembling a "cultured" plant , that it was probably a native. Especially with the name hawkweed. Like ironweed or butterfly weed or frostweed....
Speaking of which - Hey Frostweed. Do you know anything about this plant?

Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

CJ, I will personally call B Welch & inquire about the plant. She is one of my customers & I won't mind a bit. I agree that she would not sale a plant that would be bad if she knew it was bad.
Give me a call @ the Farm Friday & I will give you an answer.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

CJ, Here is the list of Invaders of Texas, I hope it helps.

http://www.texasinvasives.org/Invasives_Database/Results/Inv_Results.asp

Josephine.

I forgot to say that plants can be invasive in some areas but not in other areas.

This message was edited Jul 20, 2006 8:34 AM

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

Smockette - Thanks! I will call you.

Frostweed - But we grow many of those "invasives" and love them. I just thought you might personally have some experience with it....and that appears to be a negative...Thanks for answering my call.

Spring, TX

are you sure it is the native hawkweed, the is one with marbled foliage that is a hybrid and not invasive

Spring, TX

forgot the picture

Thumbnail by butterflybyrob
The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

That is one of them!!!! Tell me about it, pretty please!!

I'll get a photo of the other one and post.

Boerne new zone 30, TX(Zone 8b)

That's pretty! if it wasn't an invasive I might be interested...

Spring, TX

Hieracium nigram

it is clumping

Lindsay, OK(Zone 7a)

So one bad one and one good one.. .. .. this is one of the few plants (with Jewel of Opar and some others) that I will not plant here with all the problems right now.

When you call please post here and let us know what they say!! I would love to find out if they have one that is well behaved.

Spring, TX

the only thing that I know about the plant is that it rots with too much water and has yellow flower spikes

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

I am sorry CJ, I had never heard of it and know nothing about that plant.
Josephine.

Spring, TX(Zone 9b)

what is a mcartney rose? Arbor gate has reeds that spread EVERYWHERE.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Were you asking about this one?
http://www.texasinvasives.org/Invasives_Database/Results/Detail.asp?Symbol=ROBR

Josephine.

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

Thanks for all of the help guys....Here's the recap:

One had a name tag that said Leopard Hawkweed. When I google that I get Hieracium maculatum 'Leopard' or spotted hawkweed. That one looks like butterflybyrob's photo.

The other hawkweed was labeled Hieracium lanatum.
This is what I found: "An interesting species found among rocks and debris in the Alps, forming loose rosettes of thick leaves entirely covered in white-cottony-woolly down, and bearing in summer branches of up to seven yellow flowers. 4-18 ins." I've bought a plant for Houston that thrives in the Alps?
Also found:
Hieracium (Hawkweed) is a large group of perennials that are mostly weeds, though a few are worth growing in the garden. Hawkweeds are mostly native to Europe and northern Africa; however, some are found wild in America. H. lanatum grows from 12 to 18 inches high and is mainly grown for its attractive foliage. Its gray leaves are broadly lance-shaped and produced in basal rosettes; they are clothed thickly with white felt. The small, brilliant yellow flowers somewhat resemble Dandelions. They grow atop wiry, branching, gray-hairy stems in the summer.
So these may not be the invasive species after all. But then again, I sincerely doubt that I can keep them alive. LOL So much for spur of the moment purchases. The last one was three Diascia - all gone by-by.

CJ

The Woodlands, TX(Zone 9a)

BTW, butterfly - you should post that photo. It's a good one for PlantFiles.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

If the Hawkweed plant rots with too much water how dangerous could it be in your humid/wet climate?

Caraboof ~ If you are thinking about acquiring the McCartney rose, please DON'T. I am not sure what I would think about a nursery (is Arbor Gate?) with this plant. It is horribly invasive in our area, only 100+ miles north. The tale is that it was brought to east Texas by a man named McCartney and used for fencerows, growing thick and impenetrable by livestock. The only useful purpose it served was to provide cover for the quail. McCartney is long gone but not the rose. They are dreadful to kill, take over pasture land or open fields. If bushhogged, the chopped pieces seem to root individually. If burned, that treatment acts as fertilizer. If treated with costly chemicals, they are never totally gone only "whupped" into submission. They are a grim reminder of how much damage an invasive plant can do. There is frequently someone new to the McCartney rose that digs it up and transplants (like it needs help) because they think it is pretty. It is possible Arbor Gate has trouble controlling them I suppose.

This message was edited Jul 20, 2006 8:42 PM

Spring, TX

Arborgate has a nice collection of Buck roses, many are being tested by A&M for their Earthkind award

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

oh wow,robin, is that right? do you know which ones?

Spring, TX

http://www.chambleeroses.com/xcart/home.php?cat=7

they get their roses from Chamblee

Spring, TX


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Spring, TX

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this is the link to join the Earthkind Rose Brigade

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

thank you

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