i have just installed an arbor in my front yard which is all shade...; first, is there anything that will grow up it .....and is it too late in the season to get something growing on it?? i was specifically wondering about english ivy....; but would go with other suggestions....we will not get real cold till oct or nov....west texas
Is it too late this year to get something growing on my arbo
Do you really want something like that? Ivy tends to go a little nuts with time...
I would DMail Frostweed or Htop for native ideas if you are interested in a native (I have no idea about shade! just about full sun here...
There are Roses that would so well in the shade, or celmatais. . . but I would wait for fall to plant anything this heat is a killer. My ft porch is full of plants waiting for fall planting.
For instant gratification, purple hyacinth vine. It really starts growing when it turns hot and stays late. I have some seed if you need and will share. This year, I am trying two new vines, exotic love vine and sword bean vine. Will maybe have seeds for next year. For long term evergreen vines, I love the confederate jasmine. Stays delightfully green year round and fragrant blooms for about a month in the spring. pod
Oops, sorry the hyacinth bean may not like all shade. I wasn't paying attention.
Shade arbor climber zone 7a:
I agree, establishing a plant (even in the shade) July/August/September would probably be difficult and costly (water bill)
Ivy likes to wander and take over. It is nearly impossible to get rid of once established.
Clematis is a really nice choice for a shade climber.
I don't have any experience with the following; but they met your criteria on the PlantFiles advanced search.
Bourbon Rose-its reported as thornless, so wouldn't get any scratches walking under the arbor
Climbing Hydrangea-got lots of positive comments in Plant Files. I just can't give Hydrangeas enought water in the summer here, but you might have more success in Zone 7a.
This message was edited Jul 10, 2006 12:04 PM
i just love this texas forum...:)
well maybe you are right about establishing something this summer...its just that the arbor is so , so, well....white!!!! and then to top it off my goofy mother in law said ......'it is a little much...' and yes it is...but it doesn't have anything growing on it.....my yard is in its infancy....will post pics later this pm...so you see what i mean....
right now i have 2 hanging plants on it to soften it.....
as for clematis....i have been growing one in my house to get it established....it has only grown 2 inches in a month....it will take forever at this rate!!!
Uh oh, I did not know that the MiL was involved. Hanging baskets are a great idea. I don't know what your schedule is like, but you could try bringing the clematis outside a few hours a day or on weekends in partial shade to see if that would help.
podster, is deep east texas anywhere near Jasper? I graduated in Jasper.
this is a pic with graphic added plants
That looks lovely.. I would look at a rose for that - it would add charm.
Fairy Rose is a native Texas plant.. rambles and bushes so should work on a trellis
a front view.....as you can see we are all shade and the trees help diffuse the 'whiteness'....but it is still white till i can cover it with something green
That arbor looks perfect with the fence. I just love the look. Don't let your MIL fool you.
this is only year 2 of gardening...so there is alot of white ness....i have TONS of stuff on the inside of the fence growing and hopefully next year it will be peeking out the fence....i also have a trellis at the left end of the yard(your left)....it is the only part of the yard that gets sun....so i have a climbing don juan (red rose) and 2 zephyr(sp)(pink climbing roses) .....that are planted this year to start climbing on the fence.....so yes, it will be softer, more green...but right now it is still alot of white, with out the fence it was not good....we looked like the 'wood's....and everything i tryed just wasn't working....hence the fence....also we live in an area where there are some that we want to make harder to come in.....granted it is not a huge deterrent but a prevention....
I think it is beautiful. Makes me think of a granmom or old aunts house. Something warm and welcoming.
Sticks ~ That will be pretty when you get done! Just wait, your MIL will be wondering why you covered it up then.
Renatelynne ~ yes, Jasper would be "deep east". We are 50 + miles north of. Jasper really got hit hard with Rita. They are most resilient with little sniveling. I am personally convinced that deep east Texas is a state of mind as I can no longer get deep enough in the woods to suit me.
Yea we tried calling friends right after Rita and couldn't get anyone. A bunch of electic guys from here (actually San Antonio) went and helped out Jasper-Newton. I was amazed Jasper got hit so hard... When I lived there I would have NEVER thought a hurricain would hit so hard so far inland. I haven't been there in a couple of years but I imagine it has changed a bunch.
I imagine the horizon in Jasper has changed. They lost lots of trees. Folks from our area (Rita category 1) were feeling morose as we were out of lights for a week plus. They would ride down to Jasper to look and come back with a better attitude. Amazingly, a local mans' dad had a heart attack while the September gale was blowing. The only hospital that would take him was Jasper. They told the son if he could get him there they would take him. Everyone else refused. Full up. The boys made it with a four wheel drive and chainsaws and borrowed gas cans. The dad made it too!
you know that saying.....'consider the source'?....well, she is a sweet lady....but, her taste is all in her mouth....shes vanilla....i am over the top...well maybe over the arbor...i just want my yard to be a fabulous cottagey jungle....so like she said to my hubby....'if joni like it....then that is all that matters...' and that is the truth...but it still stings a bit...
podster - Jasper is just about all trees! *giggle
sticks - Well it looks cottagy... nice and warm so don't let her bother ya.
You don't have that much shade there, I thought it was under the trees, so I didn't know what to say, but seeing your pictures, I think that a Crossvine, Bignonia capreolata, would be spectacular on your arbor.
Here is a link; http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1789/index.html
Josephine.
Cottagey NOT, more like elegant after living in east Texas. Nice!
And I hope your DH said "if it makes Joni happy, it tickles the h@#ll out of me!
i love it also...but hubby has banned that from the yard.....and it look like it would grow ever so fast!!!!maybe it is a conspiracy between mil and hubby....she sez 'a little too much' ....hubby sez, 'no trumpet vine' they are trying to dispose of me(grin)
i have to say....he does love me...in fact he bought the arbor for my bday and spent all day saturday installing it....WELL, i saw mil drive by....yet she didn't stop.....i was wondering why...so hubby sez he sees her today and he asked 'whats up'....thats when she said those stinging words....granted i have never been a wall flower, but i also, try to stay below the radar....anyway , thank you:)
Perhaps that is why he loves you, you aren't like his Mom...
Well, I say you're lucky ... DH and one of his buddies rebuilt my lattice side fence in the back yard and then he left it at 99% completion for the last six weeks! The fence still needs a few trim pieces attached and my arbor is still topless :-0 He has good excuses, though -- he was really sick for a while and got behind studying for the bar exam, so now that's taking priority. And I can't blame him for not wanting to be out there in this heat. I just have to keep reminding myself that I shouldn't plant anything on it until the fall anyway. The current plan is Cl. Pinkie on the arbor and confederate jasmine on the lattice, but that may change 100 times or so before I actually get anything in the ground.
Zepherine Drouhin is a dark pink rose that can take the shade. It would look gorgeous on your gorgeous arbor.
markette....WELL, now that we are talking about half completed jobs.....you should see the inside of my house....i haven't had company for 7 yrs cause he won't get the inside done....it is not even 1/2 done....everything is drywall, screws, spackling....bare wood...he is a perfectionist and refuses to let anyone come over cause he wont finish....; i could care less if people see a half finished house....but he will not let his friends in at all....i was thinking about when he goes out of town ......trying to finish it up...but i don't think i could do it by myself...and we are talking nothing fancy...but he wont finish!!!!
brig...i already have that rose planted at the left end of my front yard so that it will start climbing on the fence....great minds think alike...i would really really love a rose .....and i would love that rose in particular, but isn't it too late to plant roses?? thank you:)
It is too late officially, but when I moved at the end of May, I dug up seven roses (including 3 z. drouhins)and stuck them in plastic pots to bring to the new house. I knew they'd die in those, so I put them in the ground in June when it was already hot and they're surviving, though I've only seen buds on the golden showers. I have new leaves on all but one, so they aren't dying, but they're not really thriving either though I did everything else right, like feeding and watering. Shade makes a definite difference. If yours are OK where they are, September would probably be more optimal, but plants seem to want to survive, and Tampa Bay HAS beaten the Yankees before, so nothing is impossible.
How's that for a definite maybe?
oh...i wouldn't use the others i have planted....i would try to find more and plant......
And it's SO hard to wait! There are things I am determined to plant, and every bit of real sense in my brain is demanding I wait until late October at the earliest, but my inner gardener is whining... plant it... plant it... plant it now...
brig...it is SO SO hard to not plant...to not buy...; i am on a gorgeous website looking at vines...and i SO want to buy....we still have 3 more months of warmth....
If you put roses on the trellis, consider ones without thorns. I speak from experience! I had a beautiful one that had to be replaced because it "attacked" everyone trying to get through the arbor to the front door! Maybe a Lady Banks? They're really pretty, but only bloom once in the spring. On the positive side, no thorns. There is a wonderful pink David Austin rose called Heritage that is practically thornless. They're not technically climbers, but do have very long canes so one on each side of the trellis should reach across the top. This one works great in my zone 9a garden with little care. Very pest and disease resistant.
crow...will the two you mentioned grow in shade??
If you ARE inclined to plant, be prepared to water, water, water. Just came in from watering here. I can't believe how the weather is drying plants out so quickly right now. Boy, would I like to see a big old, bad old thunderstorm...
i am watering watering watering.....thats half the fun!!!! but where the heck can i find something to plant with half of these places closed for the summer.....do i sound like a junkee??
Yep you got it bad. Now's the time we start prowling neighborhoods admiring plants and begging cuttings, seeds, starts... whatever.
i am terrible at cuttings other than coleus...got 48 done up right now...and i feel as tho i am behind....not sure whom i am behind ....but i am ...(grin)....