Well, I just got the confirmation that my H. macrophylla IML 1181 is REALLY H. tjadasmalanquensis. Heck, I can't even say it!!! I verified with David Liddle yesterday -
Now...repeat after me.....
OH NO!!! Now what?????
..... say that three times fast :)
HA HA...Hey Susan...long time no see!!!
No...not sure...but I copied it down correctly.
NOTE PLEASE: I failed to word my initial post correctly...as no one can say positively whether a plant in circulation IS the plant of the Type!!!! And.....
As David said it...."H. macrophylla IML 1181 compares favorably to the Type of H. tjxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx".
Not that it matters what I think...but David's position is that the ONLY truely deted plant is the specimen accompanying the publication. All the rest are out interpretations of it....
Kinda makes sense, no?
Carol
Hey, didn't I just order/receive that one?
If so...then I should change my tag to..........that 't' word?! lol!
Carol, do you have pictures of leaves and blooms so we can save them for reference? Or, better yet, would you mind updating that on the plantfiles?
Ann
So, let me get this straight....change the tag to that "t" word....but do I keep the IML 1181 on it??
LOL..OK you think YOU are CONFUSED...the newbies are just spinning here!
Okey dokey, still have pen and tags handy from changing the kentiana. But I have another macrophylla that I didn't get from you.. Hmmmm
In this case...it would only be IML 1181 that changes to the 't' word - gosh, I feel so inadequate as I have been practising all day but can't spell it yet!!! And, I do believe that the IML # stays the same...as it is designed to be the 'constant' in the whole thing and with which one can trace a 'name'.
HTH...
Good idea Ann, I will put the picture of the plant and the blooms in the Pl;antfiles..(when I track them down in my own files).....lol.
Carol
(sigh.......)
HELP! (LOL!)
OK..........IF "it would only be IML 1181 that changes to the 't' word "
THEN.......how can the IML # stay the same??
Are you saying that I should write this on my tag?
H. tjadasmalanquensis IML 1181 ?????
If not....please post, specifically, what I should write on the tag. Ü
It doesn't really matter to me, personally, as I love the foliage of it, but I suppose it matters if I should trade it in the future.
TIA, Carol!!
Nan, I'm sure Carol will be more specific then I am but here is my understanding...
The IML will always stay the same, because the IML # is the number David Liddle has assigned to that particular plant - regardless of whether or not they decide to change the name. It's kind of like your social security number. It doesn't matter how many name changes you go through, your social security number stays the same.
So, if you have a Hoya macrophylla IML 1181, you are correct if you change the tag to H. tjadasmalanquensis IML 1181.
I hope I made sense...
Ann
Well said, Ms. Kitty. It would be written as such: H. tjadasmalanquensis IML 1181 (aka. H. macrophylla IML 1181). The IML # gives it a 'history' if you will. The IML # on Davids Master List will reference where it came from etc.
Thanks, ladies...got it!
Speaking of labels ...
What is the proper way to label H. lamingtonii IML 70 (PNG-1 and PNG-4)???
Ann
Don't know...I think you got it right.
NEWS Flash.... A kind guardian angel just corrected my spelling...it is
H tjadasmalanGuensis - My bad.
Hehe
Ok I still love hoyas but now have a headache.
I'm just going to call it "Mr. T" unless writing a tag, or selling it or some such thing that requires correctness.
JUST FYI
It has just been discussed on another forum that H. tjadasmalanguensis is incorrect - the name should not include the "u". Proper spelling for the IML 1181 plant is H. tjadasmalangensis.
Ann
(.....SIGH.......!!)
I'll be sure to write this one in pencil! LOL!
Thanks for the info, Ann!
LOL...oh my...the hoya world certainly is a complicated one!
I am dyslexic..so you will all need to get used to the fact..that I will probably NEVER spell the names right!
So I will be the idiot sister who can't spell her babies name right! (laugh)
Gosh, Lorry. We don't really mind if you misspell a word or two on this forum (LOL!!!)
Ann
Oh thank goodness :) Because many of these hoya names are a nightmare :) But I suppose they are worth the mass confusion :)
%$##+++*&!!
LOL
Ah..Finally someone here makes sense!
Thanks for that Carol! (LOL)
Carol,
I have a macrophylla I've had for several years. Are you saying a certain clone out there is this "T" Hoya, or would mine likely also be the "T" Hoya? And could you give us your best pronounciation of this one? (BTW, who makes up these tounge-twisters??) =>
Denise in Omaha
Well...It is David Liddles IML 1181 that has been determined to be the closest to the 'T' hoya... Whether yours is the same would have to be determined by examining the flowers. On that MSN forum, under Liddle's photos is a comparison of the flowers of H. macrophylla, H. clementina (?) and the T. hoya.....if yours is blooming, you might match the flowers as they are fairly different enough to do it with the nekkkkkkkid eyes.