I was tending my plants this morning and discovered that all of the crowns on AATrail had died. I was and still am sick at heart. I pulled the plant apart and tried to save as many crowns as I could. I searched out the healthiest looking leaves and put them down. But I don't know where to grow them. If it is a fungus I could pass it on to all the other leaves. I have no idea why happened.
I searched Dr. Opt. Might be any number of things. I don't think it is crown rot. Looks more like mildrew. Maybe there were too many crowns is a very small space and not enough circulation of air.
What do you guys think? Any suggestions on what I should do. I just gave my last AAT plantlet away about a month ago. Gosh she was pretty.
OH NO POUR APPALACHIAN TRAIL
Oh I wish I saw a picture of it before. But if your like i would of seen it and tore it apart.
Ok it was not too wet ?
Not too dry ? Both can cause crown rot..or root rot.
It most likly was casued by plant disease. Fungi and viruses are the two types of disease organisms that will casue your plants the biggest problem. You can have a beautiful healthy plant one day, your Favorite is looking absolutely gorgeous one day , and the next it's appearance is ruined by a disease.
Isolation of any new plants for 2-3 months is the only thing that can help prevent these disease.
Nanna Fungi are usually microscopic, unless they have infected a plant and a disease colony has developed. When the mass becomes large enough fro you to see it, it is usually too late to save your African violet.
our safest bet it to toss the plant away as soon as you notice it is sick. If you do keep any of it isolate crwons a good 6 months and leaves until healthy mature babies.
There are literally thousands of different fungi that can affect your plants ~
Crown rot, gray mold, powdery mildew are three different fungi that show up on AV's . Crown rot can be caused if the soil was kept too wet,by watering with water too cold, and getting the crown wet.
Viruses are the toughst disase to diagnose. Lost of the symptoms are same as pest. Insect also does the best job spreading viruses.
There are lot's of new and old viruses out there that can kill your plants.
Check all your other plants that have been in the same room. Bleach clean all tools used on new or sick plants, and any suface and wash hands well . Keep an eye on plants that have been near them even for short period of time. Show plants don't come home and their not near each other that long.
Please let us know what happens how it turns out. I know this is very frustrating waking to your favorite plant to find it sick :(( Sorry Nanna .
I was looking more closely at the plant and it seems to me that it looked like a plant that was not getting enough nuitrients. The last time I repotted, I repotted DOWN. I think the pot pas to small to give enough food to the entire plant. I have since seperated the plant into several crowns; cleaned everything; and repotted in several pots.
Time will tell if I did the right thing. I really think the plant was to large and too many crowns all close to each other.
I have been cleaning all day and there is no other plants with this problem. I am sure it was just AA Trail.
Thanks for your advise. I will let you know how things progress.
Nanna I'd isolate the plant just in-case. I have trailers that have and have had way more crowns with not problem . Just May 3rd you have her in a size 6 inch pan pot which is an excellent size NO ? I have a trailer 4 x's the size I keep cutting off big crowns and leaves and it's in a 5 inch azela pot which is larger than the 5 inch pan pot she was in. I need to buy a 8 inch pan pot for her.
I have seen so many larger trailers growing fine.
I could be wrong but does not seem like plant would die so fast from not getting enough nurtients ? I've gone months without feeding and some people Diane for one, feeds every three months.
Have you re-potted it again sense you did here on May 3 rd . ?
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/598286/
As it looks perfect here .
It looked like the centers just dried up and died. I will isolate replantings.
Is it the same plant from May 3rd in the 6 inch pot ?
Maybe the wicks were not working. Sometimes plants get too much water cause's crown-rot and if the wicks were not working right maybe it was not getting enough water which also cause crown rot ?
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Oh no, I'm so sorry! That was such a lush, lovely plant!
If your crown cuttings don't make it, or if you just don't want to deal with isolating them etc, you know I can set you up with a replacement (or three)... I think I put an AAT plantlet into everyone's trade box this spring, and I still have a dozen or so remaining.
Please keep one for me. I have no idea what happened. The plant was fine last week.
I've put your name on 2 pots, one of which has 3 smaller plantlets in it, so if you plant them all up together you should get a nice full pot. LMK if/when you're heading up this way! :-)
BTW, my original plant (which wasn't half as lush as yours) started looking puny after I repotted it a month or so ago. Yesterday, I noticed that it didn't seem to be putting out any new growth yet, and in fact the centers had browned & dried. When I pulled it out, the roots looked fine, but I decided there was no sense in nursing it along when I had a nice replacement. Coincidence? Or maybe it's just something this variety is succeptable to?
That sounds pretty much like what mine did. I had about 20 or more crowns. I cut all the dead centers out and saved abour 10 of them. I think I will wait a month and see what happens. I did put 3 leaves down as well.
Such a pretty plant.
when plants do that it most likly could be caused by a virus.
We certainly will keep everything in isolation.
There are about 8000 fungi known to attack plants. Most thrive in warm, moist conditions, though some prefer cooler temperatures. While some fungi do little more than superficial damage to African Violets, others can be deadly. Fungi are controlled by the use of fungicides and good cultural practices, such as proper watering.
Fungus: pl. fungi. A multi-celled organism which spreads by spores or by the growth of hyphae, i.e., threadlike extensions of the fungus which grow on or into the surface of plants
http://www.optimara.com/optimaraglossary/fol-fut.html#anchor370060
With so many hard to say most are so micro-scopic
Example of one that makes a healthy plant die and nottice until over night !
Pythium: Fungus known to attack African Violets. Pythium attacks the roots and crown of African Violets, causing stems to rot at the base so that otherwise healthy-looking leaves collapse. More information.http://www.optimara.com/optimaraglossary/pot-pyt.html#anchor1257428
Like Jill said. The only problem was on the crowns. All of them. No problems with being too wet or the roots.
I understand it 's just the crowns :(( But crown rot can be caused not just by being over watered or cold , or getting wet.
Crown rot can be caused by being too dry and fungus or a virus and with over 8000 of them and you can't see them .
If it is the same healthy plant you potted in the 6 inch pan pot May 3rd something caused it.
I've grown several I could be totaly off the wall but don't think it is the variety. I know I gave Kenton one wonder if his is OK.
Oh Nanna,I'm sorry for your loss.She was a beautiful plant.I lost a russian plant beloved daughter that allison sent me.a few weeks ago.I felt bad for days.Lucky I have a rooted leaf down.
Oh I know it's horrible I have lost real expensive plants ~ Yikes.
Jan if your leaf does not take I have a couple more. I'm shipping off one to Colie Monday with an Annabelle baby I forgot to put in her box last week.
A plant as gorgous just last month like Nanna's is so hard to find it sick :((
Yeah, you're right. I didn't take it so hard with mine because it hadn't ever really filled in and started growing well after its major surgery, although the crowns I removed from it did great and the leaves gave me tons of plantlets. ('AAT' was the one that Nanna & I both got as a bonus from VG last fall... the plants were very leggy, so we divided and repotted after we got them home.)
Yes like if my large Russian Snow Leopard died I grew from leaf and love so much I would be sad :((
~ Necrosis: Condition describing dead plant tissue. ~
Crowns darken and die ,
~ Other leaves may be affected, but the necrosis appears predominantly in the young leaves of the crown.
Possible cause Crown Rot ~