Almost there, with thanks to many.

Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

I have posted a series of pics. This has been a five year labor of love, much of it aided and guided by DG, rs'. This was originally a vegetable and perennial garden. With the exception of digging the "big hole" we did it ourselves, one rock and one plant at a time. The cars head to the nurseries automatically. The ultimate goal is an Asian, woodsy place to reflect and watch the koi. There are still a couple of spots awaiting the "right" shrub or dwarf conifer and a boulder or two. Any suggestions on adding the right dwarf conifers are eagerly awaited. Special thanks to equil, randbponder, merrymary, pixydish and dax. If I have forgotton anyone smack me upside the head. The first pic is the Asian beginning.

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Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

Pond & Patio

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Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

Around the Corner. On the right is a gunnera leaf fountain and raised pool for the birds. It also has become a favorite spot for Crash the racoon. He frequently leaves his calling cards on the edge. Better than pooping in the pond I guess! :-)

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Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

Up The Path

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View from the Arbor

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Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

The Arbor, the Golden Tiara clematis is a little slow at covering this. There is a small bog garden on the left at the edge of the pond. Currently it just has yellow and blue flag iris and rumex. This I hope to enlarge down the road. Pitcher plants are in the plans equil.

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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Oh, snhapple45 - let me be the first to say - absolutely STUNNING!! The peace, coolness, zen quality of the whole area is breathtaking - and I'd venture to say with the combination of work and mental exercise, you've probably added 10 years to your life - at least that is what I convince myself of everyday. I'll bet it's hard to stay away - just a small improvement, here and there - I can hear it in your next plans. And, of course, I have to look for ideas and I love your stone paths - how did you do that? Are they slab stones? My next project is hopefully to change out the red mulch to stone paths like yours - so any advice will be appreciated. Again - a very special garden!! Dax

Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

Coming from you Dax, I am honored by the compliments. The stone work is quite an undertaking. I'll wager that there are several more experienced and knowledgable people on DG that can give advice. This is the first and only rock work I ever undertook. I did it myself because hubby has a bad knee and a bad back, although he helped where he could. First and foremost choose your stone wisely. I did not. I wanted the same stone as around the pond. It is a light grey green schist. Color - gorgeous. Workability - on a scale of 1 to 10 a -2. The stone, even the large flagstone pieces, were not flat on both sides. So you leveled very lumpy bottoms to keep the flat side up. Very tedious, time consuming and frustrating. Harder still is arranging the stones in a pleasing, fitting pattern. Kind of like putting together a jig saw puzzle where both sides are blank. It drove me mad. The patio and garden walks were first dug out to a depth of 8 inches. The excavation was leveled or sloped where needed, then heavy duty weed mat was laid down. On top of this was placed 4 inches of crushed stone called road base around here. This was watered to settle and then tamped with a heavy thingy to compact. I still cant look at the thingy without feeling my arms and shoulders hurt. Then you start with the stone, one by one, adding and subtracting the crushed stone to level them. I used a six foot level, and a four foot level and line level to keep everything flat or the proper slope where needed. The patio is a 1/8 of a bubble sloped away from the pond to avoid excess runoff into the pond. See my point about choosing stones with wisely? You want flat tops AND bottoms unless you are a glutton for punishment. After you manage to get the stones laid flat water gently then let them sit a bit. When you are sure you have want you want where you want it go back and fill the joints with more crushed stone. Water that in and go back and fill in what settled. You may need to do this several times. Some stones we broke to help with the fit. Again choose your stone wisely. The stuff we had broke where ever you didn't want it to. It did not cleave along any predictable plane. The result was what I wanted. The patio has a row of soldiers (bricks stood on end side by side) around the outside edge. It makes for easier edging and mowing and looks neater. It has proved to be very stable. There has been no settleing, heaving or shifting and it has been in three years. I also couldn't punish myself enough so I did a walk up to our humble front door in a slightly different way. Same excavation process and laid on crushed stone. I sawed 12 X 6 X 4 driveway blocks in half for edging. (Yup, sawed 48 of em.) I wanted the four inch thickness for stability and couldn't find anything else suitable. After placing and leveling the stones I let it sit for over a week before I filled the joints, watered every day and checked each stone to make sure it was stable and still level. Then I went back and put dry mortar between the stones packing each joint tight. I found out that once you start this process you cant stop because the mortar begins to set from moisture in the stone base very quickly. I finished under floodlights rigged up in haste by hubby. I used a cake frosting knife to fill and pack the joints, keeping as much mortar as possible off the top of the stone. Can you tell this was done by a woman? Come on, who else would use a cake frosting knife? When all the joints were filled I misted with water, gently untly the mortar was wet but not puddled. Then I prayed and took two anti-inflammatories. I am happy with it. It has had one winter and I have one small hairline crack in the joint mortar. Would I do it again? Not with this kind of stone. But stone work can be a beautiful addition to a garden. I have posted pics of the front walk. And I am waiting for all to tell me what I should have done that would have made this job not so gosh darn difficult. It was strictly amature night for me.

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Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

second view front walk

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Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

You have done a wonderful job and I do love the walk ways, that is one thing I am trying to work on is a small one going out to the pond but no way is it ever going to look like that and the cake frosting knife well that is an idea and one only a woman would think of, we do think outside the box..how funny...

Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Oh my --------!!! Wow! Snapple - Absolutely breathtaking, but you've got me - I'll never be able to work that hard!! By the way, I'm thinking we have the same husband - mine is also pretty banged up, and although he helps when he can, he can't get real physical. But that's OK with me, I don't mind hard work. Well, the first thing I'm going to do is follow your advice on finding the right stone - flat sided to start with. Thanks much, you've given me some perfect pointers to get started on my investigation. For sure, I'm going to have to figure out an easier way - I just don't think I've got your stamina! I'll keep in touch - are you going to be doing any more paths in stone? If so, I'm always looking for any tips - talk to you soon, and keep those pics coming - Dax

Emmaus, PA(Zone 6a)

words escape me.. magificient!

(Zone 9a)

I agree with terri in Pa. The flagstone may have been laborious, but it sure looks stunning. Did you order it in bulk? Where did you get it?

Troy, IL(Zone 6a)

Breath-taking!!!! Looks like something from a magazine that a pro did. Please tell me about the path that leads to the pond. Did you mortar it? I need details, lots of details. lol

Deb

Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

Thank You. It is a project for the determined. We have two local stone suppliers that have been engaging in a price war. This stuff was cheap relatively speaking. 19 cents a lb for the smaller stuff and around 30 for the really large pieces. It was cheap, I found out later, because it is such a pain to put down and some of what you get in the pallet is unusable, too rough on both sides for a walk. People with any brains pick better stuff, but oh no, not me. I HAD to have the blue green color! You pay more for the "good stuff" because it lays easier and you waste very little. I went through about 8 tor 9 tons. Yup, that's right, tons. That includes the pond work too. You tell the supplier what your project dimensions are and they know how much you will need. They figured it pretty close. I went back for some extra because I really chose for color. It was called "Mountain Green". When the pallets were delivered they came on wood pallets with a wire fence enclosure. You cut the wire and take the pallet apart stone by stone and choose which pieces are best. So you handle the stuff over and over again. Honestly I was so dumb. I wound up laying a whole pallet out at a time on the driveway to inspect. One load was so bad I asked them to take it back and they did. They came and put it back and trucked it off. Both places carried the same stone so I could sort of shop for the best stuff between the two. I did not do this all at once. I probably wouldn't be able to walk upright anymore if I had! First the pond, then the patio. Next year I did the two paths through the gardens to the pond. Last year I did the front walk. If you decide to do this remember that better stone costs more but saves immensely in labor and time and nearly eliminates waste. I think you could actually have fun with it. Both stone yards were helpful with advice. Afterall, they were unloading a lot of the cheap stuff on one unsuspecting novice!

Holland, OH(Zone 5b)

Thanks nDebt. For details try to wade through the post of the 8th. I know it is a little long but the info is there. The garden paths are all on crushed stone with crushed stone betweeen the joints. The front yard walk is on crushed stone with mortar between the stones using dry mortar then wetting it down when all the joints are filled. The stone step up to the front deck (not shown) was wet mortared. (I got braver!) Because it took so long to choose and fit the pieces I didn't dare try to set the stones in wet mortar. I'm told it can be done with level stone pieces that fit together easily, over a flat concrete base, but not the lumpy irregular stone I happened to choose.

Southern, CT(Zone 6a)

Incredible. Everyone in my family (except me) is a mason and a stone mason and I say its incredible.

Potsdam, NY(Zone 4a)

snapple, just goes to show what one woman with a dream and determination can accomplish. You deserve every moment of enjoyment from your creation. Hats off to you. I am trying cheaper, and slower! Lots of rocks as I dig out gardens. Any suitable, I am slowly making a stone path at my little pond. But, no rush. They aren't going anywhere. You go, girl! BAM

Portland, OR(Zone 8a)

Good for you, I am very inspired! Absolutely beautiful!!

Beaverton, OR

Very nice.

You have good taste in plants, too.

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