Hi, I am new to gardening. Didn't know there was so much to learn about. I am in the process of creating 2 flower gardens, Could someone please tell me which of these seeds will turn out to be an Invasive Plant, The list is a little long, I went seed crazy and really have no idea what I am doing.
These are the seeds I have.
Nicotiana alata sensation white,
I have 4 different Aquilegia,
formosa, blue bonnets, little lanterns and mini star.
4 different Penstemon,
tubaeflorus, whippleanus, hirsutus, and grandiforus.
sweet pea royal reds
Oenothera lamarckiana (Common Evening Primrose)
Viola tricolor (Johnny Jump Up)
Sorghastrum nutans (Indian Grass)
Agastache foeniculum (Anise Hyssop)
Agastache cana 'Purple Pygmy'
Iberis sempervirens 'Snowflake' (Perennial Candytuft)
Nigella damascena 'Miss Jekyll Blue' (Love-in-a-Mist)
Asperula orientalis (Blue Woodruff)
Thalictrum aquilegifolium (Meadow Rue)
Allium azureum (caeruleum)
Seeds I have coming.
Armeria Bees Mixed
Baby Blue Eyes Pennie Black
Bellflower Pyramidalis Mixed
Catananche Cupid's Dart
Catananche Cupid's Dart Bicolor
Love-In-A Mist Persian Jewels
Columbine Magpie
Cornflower Blue Carpet
Edelweiss
Knautia Macedonia
Lavender Lady
Lobelia Cascade
Viola Sororaria Freckles
Would appreciate any info you can give me.
Thanks Connie
Can anyone tell me about these?
cegoins,
The only one on your list that I know will end up being a headache is Oenothera lamarckiana (Common Evening Primrose). I planted it several years ago and I'm still regretting it.
As for the Columbines (Aquilegia), I love them. they self seed, but do not take over. They transplant easily in my experience so you can move them around to suit your fancy.
May I suggest that you search the Plant Files where you'll find excellent information.
RBB
Hi Connie - I had a bad experience with Jonnie Jump Ups in Pennsylvania. They just got everywhere and got shabby in summer.
Don't plant the evening primrose. You will live to regret it, LOL!
I have a spot way way out back, I think that is where the
primrose and jump ups will go.
I am on an acre and a half and the property is long.
That should give the very back end some color and still be
far enough away from my flower bed in the front. (I hope)
Thank you all ever so much for your help.
Connie
Lots of people aren't familiar with common names and then there are many who aren't familiar with the Latin names so I went through your list and sort of did both so people could get a look see at what you've got to offer comments. Plants in bold are listed as invasive species on a few lists-
-White Nicotiana (Nicotiana alata 'Sensation White'), some people complain about this plant.
-Aquilegia, not a problem even if it isn't a native Aquilegia in my opinion
-Formosa (Leycesteria formosa?, Aquilegia formosa?, Dalea Formosa?) there are many plants with formosa in the binomial. Need more information than what you provided for others to try to answer your question.
-Blue Bonnets (Aquilegia x hybrida 'Blue Bonnets') or Texas Blue Bonnets (Lupinus texensis)?
-Little Lanterns (Aquilegia canadensis 'Little Lanterns') or another cultivar from another genus? I suppose it doesn't really matter as all of those are well behaved plants.
-mini star- (Aquilegia flabellata 'Mini Star') or another cultivar from another genus? If it's Aquilegia that doesn't seem to create a lot of work for anyone.
-4 different Penstemon- there are 249 species in Penstemon. Almost all are perfectly fine. You don't by any chance have any more information do you?
I think you did list out which ones, sorry about that.
P. tubiflorus. P. whippleanus, P. hirsutus, and P. grandiflorus are all great plants for shade
-sweet pea royal reds (Lathyrus odorata "Royal Reds')
-Common Evening Primrose (Oenothera lamarckiana) actual name of this plant is Oenothera glazioviana and I feel relatively confident this is going to be a problem by you.
-Johnny Jump Up (Viola tricolor) This is actually a European Pansy and lots of people complain about these however I don't grow them so can't really comment. They are appearing in natural areas out this way.
-Indian Grass (Sorghastrum nutans)
-Anise Hyssop (Agastache foeniculum)
-Mosquito Plant (Agastache cana 'Purple Pygmy')
-Perennial Candytuft (Iberis sempervirens 'Snowflake')
-Love-in-a-Mist (Nigella damascena 'Miss Jekyll Blue')
-Blue Woodruff (Asperula orientalis)
-Meadow Rue (Thalictrum aquilegifolium)
-Blue Globe Alilium (Allium azureum/ A. caeruleum)
Seeds I have coming.
-Armeria Bees Mixed Thrift? (Armeria maritima 'Bees Hybrid') maybe (Armeria pseudarmeria 'Bees Hybrid') I'm not familiar with Armeria at all.
-Baby Blue Eyes Pennie Black (Nemophila menziesii 'Penny Black')
-Bellflower Pyramidalis--Chimney Bellflower Mixed
I know these by the common name of Chimney Bellflower (Campanula pyramidalis) Catananche
-Cupid's Dart (Catananche caerulea) sort of reseeded around here when I had it.
-Catananche Cupid's Dart Bicolor (Catananche caerula 'Bicolor') this might reseed around a lot too.
-Love-In-A Mist Persian Jewels (Nigella damascene 'Persian Jewels')
-Columbine Magpie (Aquilegia caerulea 'Magpie')
-Cornflower Blue Carpet another common name for this is Bachelor's Buttons (Centaurea cyanoides 'Blue Carpet') This might get out of hand for you. I planted some a few years ago and they are still popping up here and there.
-Edelweiss (Leontopodium alpinum) quite a few people say this gets weedy
-Knautia Macedonia- I have no experience with this and have never heard of it before.
-Lavender Lady (Lavendula angustifolia 'Lavender Lady')
-Lobelia Cascade (Lobelia pendula 'Blue Cascade')
-Viola Sororaria Freckles Wooly Blue Violet (Viola sororia 'Freckles')
Out of all of the seeds and plants you purchased, the one that was the worst for me was Love-in-a-Mist (Nigella damascene). I think a lot of people have problems keeping that one in control. Seems as if even if you deadhead them a few sneak to seed. Hope this helps you better determine which seeds you want to try to germinate.
I'm telling you...the Oenthera (primrose)will be a pain in the fanny. It's a very aggressive native.
I have 4 different Aquilegia,
formosa, blue bonnets, little lanterns and mini star.
it's the Aquilegia formosa.
The last bunch of seeds on the list, I ordered from valueseeds.com and that is the names they gave.
Thank you all for input.
Connie
It some areas a plant will be invasive and the same plant will be behaved. For example. Bishp's weed is behaved here in Colorado and in other parts of the country it is a monster. Be sure to ask your neigbor's what they regret planting and look up your noxious weed list in your state. That will give you another idea what not to plant.
I agree with dodecatheon, the evening primrose is something that I would give a by. The jjohnny jump up will do just what their name suggests, but they hybridize themselves and offer new faces every year. Personally, I use them as a living mulch. Almost none of these are hard to control even when they self seed (evening primrose being the exception).
The evening primrose has just stuck itself everywhere. I pull and pull...RoundUp and RoundUp. I made the mistake, about 5 years ago, of planting it in my garden. It is a beautiful plant....but it's germination rate is anywhere from 100% to 350%. I have it in my little prairie, where, due to competition from other native plants...it behaves itself. But as for using it as a garden plant...I really, Really, REALLY wouldn't go there.
Yes, Virginia, there are aggressive native plants! LOL!
okay, our property is around 640 ft long with most of the length being the back. If I plant the primrose at the very very back (open field behind property with no chance of houses being built) I am talking lets say a good 540 feet from where my garden is going to be, and about 490 feet from the main back yard. will it travel that far? we have nothing at the back end but trees, weeds and junk. I was just going to put those back there for color.
Connie
I have to speak up too, about the evening primrose. I have the 'sundrops' variety and it became very invasive the first/second year. This is its third year — I still have it, but am continually weeding it out a very invasive root system and starts. If you really want this one, I'd recommend putting it in a bucket to prevent roots from spreading and religiously dead-heading the flowers and seed pods to prevent spreading.
Violas Johnny Jump-Ups are also invasive (I have and they regularly spread via seed). If you don't mind them popping up here & there, they aren't so bad. I rather enjoy them and if they pop up in a place I don't want them, just pull them out. I am also growing many varieiteshybrids of violas and pansies from seed. They look good as long as they don't get too leggy or too dry.
Love-in-a-mist. Mine have spread via seed throughout the garden; I thin them out each spring and allow just a few to remain here & there. Easy to thin/control.
Anise Hyssop (Agastache foeniculum) reseeds like mad here. I do have to pull some out and have considered removing the original planting, but the bees, butterflies and even hummingbirds like it so much, that I can't bear to do so. I pull some of the volunteers and pot up others for friends.
I understand from the internet and from a Native American friend that the leaves make a nice tea and herbal remedy for chest congestion and sore throat. Shepherd's Garden Cook Books have a few recipes for them. So, I will keep it around, eat as many as I can, and pull up the rest. But be careful. We have very little water here. I don't know what they might do with a lot of rainfall.
Aquilegia canadense (Columbine)
They do cross pollinate and reseed giving me wonderful varieties of colors. There are lots of them, but as far as I am concerned one can never have too many columbines.
Thanks so much for all the info. You all have been so helpful.
Connie
