Id and Help with pest or disease

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Well I got this problem.

Don't know much about trees and the only one in my backyard I want to keep ........well........... take a look.
Also could someone possibly tell me what kind of tree it is????????????


calvin

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San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Also, the pest problem..... able to take a few and hope that it helps id.

webb around several leaves..........

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San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

and.......... holes in the leaves............



calvin

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San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

one more..... I can't explain it but to say it looks like spikes are comeing out if the top of the leaves......... I hope this picture took.


calvin

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San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

I just finished a raised bed under neath it and don't want to loose the tree.

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Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

Sorry I cannot ID the tree, but I know my bugs! LOL.

You have web worms...I hate them. Often times they are high up in the tree and you can't get at them. Wasps feed on them, but in my experience there are not enough wasps in the world. I had them in pecan trees in a previous home.
The leaves of pecans are fairly acid so bugs eating them have acid excriment which will just eat the finish off your car! They are seasonal and will go away eventually. I however can't stand them and when ever possible killed them.
I tried all the nice environmentally friendly methods and they either didn't work, or didn't work fast enough, like yesterday. I am sure many will cringe and curses will be put on me but I have one word, Malathion!
Let the fire storm begin.

April

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Doesn't really look all that bad to me; I'm sure April is right....I tend not to fret over things to often and overall the plants look ok....but there's always going to be little imperfections.....blast that web with the water hose; you'll feel better anyway.

I know the tree is not an oak, or at least not one I'm familiar with. Don't put more than 3" of mulch on existing tree roots more than every 6 months. I get away with heavy mulch because my trees were started with the mulch--but now that they are 15 years old I'm cutting back underneath them.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

The leaf sort of resembels a Persimmon, but the little fruits don't, it could be a Hackberry, but I am not sure.
Josephine.

McKinney, TX(Zone 8a)

I was also thinking hackberry/sugarberry Celtis laevigata as Josephine said. It actually looks healthy for a hackberry. They are considered trash trees because they seed profusely and their seedlings are the devil to remove, and the cut down trees and seedlings resprout unless you completely dig them out.

They also have multiple problems, but the problem just make them unattractive... being the Hackberry Emperor Catepiller host and multiple types of galls. The fruit is loved by wildlife though! I would never plant one, but would not remove it either if you are happy with it being in your yard. This weekend we removed a 3 inch diameter trunked one so we could hang a hammock, but I have plenty more! ...A couple of mature trees, lots of babies, and resprouting trunks to go along with them.

Oops - fixed my formatting

This message was edited May 18, 2006 12:16 PM

Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

It's true, you don't have to treat the beggars; this is a self limiting invasion.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Thanks for the id. I know that Hackberry in most opinions is a trash tree, but for me, it will do. I would like to take it out and put in a great shade, fragrant tree however, the Hackberry is so established in my hard clay 6 inches dep soil and rock underneath ground. I don't really want to do all that back breaking work to get it and roots out and plant something else in it place. Grinding the stump into to ground only covers it up but then I can not plant in that location.

Oh well........ for now it is my best shade tree and that is what I really want. I will settle.

And the pest problem......... I won't worry if it truelly is temporary.

thank you all

calvin

Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

Calvin, I'm curious about your three tilting pots in the bed under the tree. Will you be planting something in them? How did you get them to do that?

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Calvin, don't feel bad about having a Hackberry, they can be magnificent trees when healthy and well cared for.
One of our Dave's members who lives in Granbury has a beautiful and very graceful one, that must be at least 80 feet tall and makes a great statement down in the lower part of their yard close to the river.
This is what it can be like, so take good care of it, and it will reward you.
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/109644/

Josephine.

NE Medina Co., TX(Zone 8a)

Yes, definitely a Hackberry! And the little bumps on the leaves are galls, I believe. Lots of trees have those, harmless.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

maggiemoo,

Those pots are my feeble attempt to keep an annual spot in my perrenial shade garden under the tree.

I did plant somethings in the pots.
top- snap dragons(Fordhook),
middle- allysium(Carpet of snow),
bottom- lobelia(Crystal Palace).
All were planted as seed. They have sprouted but seem to be slow growers. After I had planted them though I am not happy with the choice. I was wanting the have the blue and white drap over the pots and onto the ground and raised bed. Much like a plant blanket layed over to snuggle up with shade garden. I think I will try another choice next year.

I got the idea from some of the locale nurseries inthe area. They are selling plant stands that do this. You place the stand in one large pot and then add the rest to make the pot topiary. I kind of copied the idea by hammering a rebar pole into the ground for stability and then adding the pots.....note..... that the first pot that is slid done the rebar through the center hole is upside down to create a holder for the first planter pot. My version is more permenant than the plant stand at the stores but WAY LESS expensive. (rebar= 2.00 Home depot, pots= 2.00 Micheals craft store). I have seen the plants stands at various stores and price range was btwn 25-30$. I like the idea of being moveable but I have to wait to get the money. Very empty in the pocket book. .......shollow pockets leads to deep creativity.........!

hope you find this reply and are able to understand it.

calvin

This message was edited May 19, 2006 2:22 PM

Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

Calvin
Many of us are short on cash, wish I was as creative! The pots look great!
April

Conroe, TX(Zone 9a)

Calvin, we're all cash poor I think. After all, we're always spending money on plants, soil, etc. I told someone I would be a rich woman today if I wasn't a gardener, but I certainly wouldn't be as happy, lol!

Thanks for the description of how those pots went together, I'm going to try it in my whimsical garden!

Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

I don't think I couldn't be a gardner...it's in the blood, but I do know that if I were rich I'd have lots more plants! a greenhouse (top of the line), cloning machine..."...perchance to dream..." LOL.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

greenhouse for sure. Just I have to "get the cart before the horse". I can have my plants and veggies without the greenhouse. BUT OHHHH what i could do with a green house. (drooling over the thought).

calvin

Missouri City, TX(Zone 9a)

Oh Calvin, my thought exactly!!! What couldn't I do w/ a greenhouse???????

Oh sorry had to wipe the drool off my chin. LOL.

April

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