Today, I stumbled on a nursery that had 11 plants that were labeled:
Angels' Trumpet, Orange Datura x candida
It looks like a Brug in every respect that I can think of, but would like to know why it was labeled as a Datura? Is this a common practice with some Brugs, or am I showing my ignorance? Somebody please enlighten me.
The lady at the nursery did not seem to know anything about them. They are terribly root-bound in 4 inch pots, but I bought all 11 of them for $2.50 each.
Is this a Brug or a Datura?
Can you put a pic? Datura blooms usually bloom UP, brugs down.
Datura leaves usually have a strong smell. Never noticed that with a Brug.
Sounds like a good deal either way. :~))
The short story is that brugs used to be classified under the genus of datura until 1973. At that time, Tommie Lockwood did a doctoral thesis on brugs which clearly showed they were a separate genus. The Preissel book on Brugmansia and Datura has the first chapter devoted to the long standing confusion of which one belongs where since 1714.
I still find lots of nurseries still call brugs datura but all datura are labeled datura.
I have never heard of an orange datura or one being called candida, so I think you might have brugs there. It would be great if you could post a pic like Gloria suggested. The leaves are different. Or go to the datura forum and look at them to get an idea.
If they are brugs, and if they are cuttings from 1 brug, they will all look the same but if they are from seeds, there could be differences since genetically they are not clones of each other. But I bet they will be similar in looks evenif seedlings.
They have not bloomed yet. That is one of the many reasons that I think that this is a Brug instead of a Datura. The stems are greenish and a bit rough instead of the usual dark and smooth texture of the Datura. I will take pictures first thing in the morning, and post them.
Yes, I thought that they were a good deal, even if I have to treat them very carefully while transplanting. Sometimes I fill a large bucket with water and some B vitamins. Then I try to carefully remove the pot from the roots, and let the root mass soak in the vitamin enriched water to soften and loosen a bit before tranplanting into a pot with soil that has been presoaked in the same solution. I hate to loose plants to root damage.
If they are Brugs, they probably will not bloom for another year, right? They are not cuttings, they appear to be grown from seeds, and are about 14 inches tall.
They could. Esp. in your zone. Brugs love to flower in the fall, the cooler months. I got mine in real late last year and some flowered. The trouble was though I could not evaluate the blooms at all even as a first year one for it was so cool, there was little color in a lot of the blooms.
You sure treat your babies well, Sheral!
Here is the first picture. It is the one on the bottom right. I am showing it next to my other two brugs in large white terracotta pots, and a Datura seedling to the left, in a 10 inch red terracotta pot.
More pictures to follow.
This is a close-up of the top of the plant, looking down. This shows the shape of the leaves.
This shows the color of the stalk. It also shows that it appears to be a seedling, and not a cutting.
This picture shows how the poor roots are struggling to find a nice, nutritious home.
I appreciate any information that you can give me on these. Remember, I have 11 of them!
Sheral
I would say by the the pictures they are Brugs, at least the Daturas I have grown do not have leaves that large
I have both, Daturas and Brugs. Yours look like a Brug
Whow just saw one for $25 at the farmer's market.
Lavina
Hello Lily,
Hope you don't mind me jumping into the conversation, but
it sounds like you may have a heck of a deal on your hands.
I know of no Datura in orange.
With a root system like that, I'd vote Brug as well.
Not to mention, the leaf structure along the stem and the
green of your foliage. Do a happy dance and post pix when you can.
:-)
Dat/Brug Newbies:
Last night I came up with the answer to remembering which is Dat and which is Brug: The t in Datura points up, and the m and n in Brugmansia hang down. Just like their flowers. I am so clever!
Too bad I have neither Dat nor Brug, but I hope to change that siruation in '08.
Carol
PS: Don't argue with me about the g; m and n are more like the flowers.
I vote brug also. Although I have seen datura's (jimson weed) growing in the wild that more strongly resembled a brug untill the blooms began to apear.
Poor lil thing! I bet it takes off when you transplant it. I vote brug. LOL
i vote brug also i am with you ZZsBabiez
I vote brugs. Seedlings do grow tremendously fast. They grow twice as fast compared to that of cuttings by my experience this growing season. (My first with raising seedlings).
I have grown both. My vote is for brug too.
Kareoke, how do you overwinter yours?
bluegrassmom, most are in pots, or I dig them up, pot them and keep them in a plant room attached to the house