H. magnifica var. WMZ

Here is a picture of magnifica WMZ i received as a cutting. It hasn't taken yet, and so the leaves are looking a little dessicated. Very fuzzy, with a really great texture. The leaves seem to be larger than standard magnifica leaves, but my memory may be faulty as I haven't grown straight magnifica for a while. Matt and I were discussing this- I thought I would post here for everyone to see. This variety is said to have a "more pleasant (nutmeg) fragrance" than straight magnifica, by Ted Green. I was wondering if this could explain the differing experience of Swedish growers, who say their clones smell like horse s***. Maybe the two (at least) clones of this species vary in their interpretation. I know some folks love and others hate the smell of plain magnifica, some say ambrosial, and others cloying. Maybe WMZ is nutmeg and stable both? Has anyone grown both of these clones?
Mark

Here is the underside of the leaf. Both surfaces of mine are equally fuzzy.
Carol, what was your final verdict on the scent of your aff. albiflora, which I beleive you said may turn out to be magnifica?

Here is my cutting of H. magnifica WMZ bought at the end of last year from a grower in Sweden. WMZ does stand for Welsh Mountain Zoo, although I don't know if this is a place in Australia or not. I could only find a reference to a zoo of the same name in Wales, UK. Anyone out there know?
(Hmmm........ I think Mark's is bigger than mine ;-) )
It rooted really quickly and is now beginning to grow a vine. I sincerely hope when it's grown up, that it's fragrance is of 'the nutmeg variety'!! The scent is meant to be really powerful, so Heaven help us if it isn't!!
By the way I don't know if anyone else does this but you may notice some wire pegs over the lower leaves. I make these in the shape of an old-fashioned hairpin (...not that I remember them of course!) about 3" long and push these over the lowest leaves and into the soil when the cutting is rooting. It stops the cuttings from twisting in the soil if the pots are moved, which can shear off all the newly forming roots. This way it keeps nice and firm until its roots can do the job.

Matt

Hmmmm. Final verdict from David Liddle is that the species of H. magnifica/H.albiflora appears to be more varied than previously thought...and someone needs to sort it all out. Hopefully that someone will be him... I am continuing to call mine aff. albiflora but I guess I could just as well call it aff. magnifica...because it isn't H. magnifica.

Confused yet?

Keeping fingers crossed for nutmeg for sure..... Very fuzzy leaves...

I'm confused, for one. So is albiflora maybe a synonym for magnifica? or a variety of it? Can't wait to hear David's analysis.

My ;take is that as more and more hoyas are more closely 'looked at', more questions appear. There is something about the calyxes that differ...calyxes being an important point in IDing a flower. So now all the information as come in that it is NOT a simple question with a simple answer....

I think this is part of the mystique and allure of Hoya.