I personally want to let each of you know my feelings on a few things that have recently been boiling just under the surface on the AV forum.
The purpose of this post is to openly clarify a few issues before they get out of hand.
First, I'm so pleased that the AV forum has grown so much since CritterO's Spring Easter Bunny Trade post back in Nov?
Before that it was basically a handful of posts by myself and a few others.
I can certainly see where someone could get the idea it was owned by a certain person. It is owned by Daves Garden members only.
I have never eluded to anything different.
However, because it was a small forum that begin with a request from myself and others growing AV's at the time, I did post as much information as I could to all who posted questions on the forum. I felt a responsibility to make the AV forum a success & did the best I could to keep it going.
We all have different ideas about growing things and we may never agree on anything except our love of African Violets, the forum is there to offer us a way to share in everyone's knowledge base and experiences.
It has come to my attention that there seems to be a problem between Allison and myself. There is NO problem as far as I'm concerned.
No need to make nasty replies & then delete posts .
I gladly will leave the forum to all of your capable hands.
I offer my thanks & gratitude to Keyring for her sharing of knowledge of other Gesnaeriads, Critterologist for the great Spring Easter Bunny Trade,Begoniacrazzi for her tireless work on the sticky notes and the rest of you for making the African Violet forum the success it is today.
Enjoy "Your" forum folks,
Respectfully,
MsC/MsCritterkeeper
To All The African Violet Forum Memebers...
I guess i'm out of the realm of what is going on..as i don't realize any of this...but i feel we all need each other...and MsC...i think it absolutely wonderful that you folks got this forum going....it is always so important to have folks like you...and i want you all to know how much you are appreciated.and needed....my hope is that you will remain with us...sincerely...Bob
I agree with Bob - I haven't been here long, but I was not aware of any issues. I too appreciate each and every one of you!
Anita
oh my goodness.
If there is no problem as far as you are concerned, I'd much rather you didn't leave the forum. Step away for a bit, maybe, but please do lurk and visit often. This forum would absolutely not be here if not for you, and I wouldn't be involved at DG at all if not for you.
How on earth did it come to this.
*sigh*
One of the best things about the AV forum is that we have so many active contributers to it! Everyone is generous with their time and is quick to post advice or cheers for a pretty bloom or a successful propagation!
I missed the exchange with the deleted posts, so I don't know what happened there, but I'm sorry there was a conflict. I hope *everyone* will continue to feel welcome and wanted and needed in the forum! MsC, you and Keyring and others have done so much to set the tone of warmth & friendship in this forum... I sure hope those who have been here longer aren't feeling crowded by us newcomers. We're in your debt, and we're in awe of your expertise.
It's remarkable how much the AV forum has grown in the past several months, and I guess misunderstandings & "growing pains" are inevitable... I'd like to make a general sort of comment, one that's not based on any particular thread or post I've seen from anyone here, so please don't think this is directed at anyone specifically! It can be hard to get across "tone" sometimes with a post, so I'd like to suggest that, before you fire off a response to something you may have taken in a way that was unintended, please take a moment to wonder if this person could really have meant to say that, or to take the tone that you think you read.... Sometimes it's much better to dash off a quick Dmail to clarify something than to continue posting and have a thread turn aggressive or defensive.
I'm not sure how clear that was, but I'm sure of how much I love this forum and respect and admire my friends here!
very well put Jill - thank you
critter..absolutely...we all need and appreciate each other.
Right, this is a little neighborhood in cyberspace that I am grateful to be a part of, and we want you to be here, as well.
Ditto Critter, we ALL need one another.
I'd like to weigh in if I may...
I'd like for us all to love and respect each other. BUT sometimes we get our toes stepped on. So I'll publicly say "I'm Sorry" to all if starting my sticky thread was the impetus for the heated discussion.
MsC. Please reconsider. I respect and need to have the valuable input you give.
Allison, Your input and generosity is valuable to me and I have learned a great deal from this forum.
Everyone, I am so grateful for this forum, the friends I have gained in my life here, the knowledge I receive here and the opportunity to be with each and every one of the unique individuals that join here each day to 'spend' life together.
It literally 'makes my day' to converse with all of you. ALL of you!
One of the things I have really enjoyed was the friendly tone of this forum. I would love to see us get over this hiccup and love one another.
MsC I posted this on one other thread and also want to place it here.
Please...no one needs to leave. The thought of any hurt feelings in the AV forum makes my heart ache. This is one place I can go that brings me peace and oftentimes puts a smile on my face. I eagerly come to this forum each day to hang out with some of the nicest, warmest, and most giving people I have ever met.
We all need to be there for each other.
Deb
we can and will love each other...there are not any forums i know about that is as loving and giving as this one...
I posted in the other thread, as well, and wanted to post here, too. Again, I missed whatever this is about, so I don't know what's going on, but I really do hope you choose to stay, MsC. This forum is such a wonderful place, and I enjoy every moment spent here. Each person has so much to offer, and I hate to think of anyone feeling as if we'd all be better off if they left.
MsC...you are a wonderful lady..and I can't stand the idea of you leaving!
You have been so kind and helped me so much...please..I think we are like a family and we sometimes argue but...we all LOVE each other and that is what counts.
Ohhh no.I don't know what happened but please don;t leave.We need you MsC. Were all one big family:)
Lottie,
First, Don't leave. Second, You are the one that asked Dave to start this forum. When I first started coming to African violet forum you and Keyring were the ones that helped me . You have always made me feel comfortable asking question and offer me valuable information. I have also made a friend in the process. Thank you for having the patience of teaching me about African violets, and also becoming my friend.
Patti
I hate to think of any one feeling that it's best for them to leave the forum. It's ok not to agree, it's ok not to have positive feelings about everybody and it's ok to know/admitt that we wouldn't enjoy everybody that contributes if the setting was different.
Part of the purpose of a forum is to provide information, share expereince and knowledge, etc. I think everybody has a lot to offer- well maybe not me. If this or any forum is going to be a benefit it is imperitive that the forum continues to provide as much relevant information as possible, especially if that information is different. As we all know, one person's recipe for success doesn't necessarily tranlate to the next person. Knowing that there are different ways to do something is really helpful when you are looking at your failure! If method A results in poor success I am always happy for plan B or C and it's also nice to know that I am not alone in my failure or success!
I do not know the exact circumstances that occurred, that's what happens when I let my real life get in the way, but I never thought of this forum as belonging to any one specific and I did not think any one was the "owner" and I certainly did not think that you thought you were the owner- if that makes sense.
MsC. you have been very helpful and inspirational for me. I have enjoyed "talking" to you and reading the info that you give. I really hope that you will reconsider. The forum would not be the same w/o your knowledge, charm and wit!
and is your name really Lottie?
yes we need everyone...we all are less when one of our family is missing
April,
Yes, Lottie is her real name. Pretty cool name don't you think? *Smile*
To Everyone,
First, Let me clarify. Yes, Lottie and Keyring were the first to get this forum off and going. That is in no way saying she owns it, but simply stating facts. Lottie has never said she owns or thinks she owns this forum that would be silly.
Second, Lottie has shown me and others in this forums ways of growing African violet in an economical ways. You don't have to agree with her, but please don't make her or anyone else feel they are doing something wrong by posting it., just because it not the way you do it. Doesn't make it wrong. I am pretty sure no one here has a degree in Botany .
April states as the following “As we all know, one person's recipe for success doesn't necessarily translate to the next person. Knowing that there are different ways to do something is really helpful when you are looking at your failure! If method "A" results in poor success I am always happy for plan B or C and it's also nice to know that I am not alone in my failure or success!" Well said April.
Last, This forum is here to share our experiences with others, and to help educate others who don't have the knowledge concerning African violet like myself. Remember Dave gave us this entire African violet forum. It is suppose to be fun for all. He can take it away from us at any given moment, so let’s appreciate what we have here, a love for African violets and the opportunity to create great friendships.
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Happy Gardening all
Patti
This message was edited Feb 10, 2006 11:07 AM
just to clarify the record, I arrived after MsC requested this forum and gathered support for it. I just joined in and started talking about other gessies :-)
If I miss spoken Keyring . I am sorry.
Patti
oh gosh, please, no apologies necessary. I just didn't want to be taking credit for something I didn't do.