This is my Pink Champagne trailer. As you can see the leaves are turning yellow and then brown in the center. There are flower buds on the plant though. It was transplanted a couple of weeks ago. It gets fed purple 7-7-7 along with all my other AV's - which are not yellowing. Does it need a heartier diet?
Thanks in advance to the gessie guru's!
-Kim
It could be diet, but please first check the stems carefully to make sure there are no little brown dots on them (otherwise known as scale - blood-sucking monsters). Especially check the stems of the leaves that are yellowing. One symptom of scale is that the leaves lose color.
Thanks Keyring! I went and looked and - I am thinking aphids. There are tiny honeydew dots on the stem. Also, this fall we brought in an outdoor container plant of stock. Follow me here. Everything was great - they were even blooming! until a couple of weeks ago. I realized they were covered in bugs. At the time I knew they were aphids. The stock is gone but the aphids moved on to our indoor micro-greens. Sigh. I sprayed with Neem. They have not gone away. I am going to cut the lettuces back (they need to be a bit bigger) and spray again. Now it seems they are on at least one of my AV's.
I have just finished spraying all 7 AV's with Neem. I also sprayed the micro greens & a small basil plant that were all on the same shelf under the lights. They are all on the front porch in the sun (it is 56 and sunny here) to dry out. I have disinfected the shelves. All my AV's are in self watering pots.
What else should I do?? I have a Senk "Alchemy Gold" coming next week - thanks to you all and Ebay :) It will have to go into quarantine if this keeps up!
-Kim
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Hi Kim I can't find Pink Champagne Trail in First Class
is it varigeated. ?
First and most important with any new plants where ever
they come from Isolate them for at least 2-3 months.
~ Our stickt at top of forum has lots of info about new plants, Isolation and any problem you can not imagine happening ~
I went to Doctor Optimara ~
Good Iead to go there and check all possiblitys
1. Crown Pales - Brown Spots on Leaves
Crown pales, and the leaves have brown spots on them. If your African Violet has this combination of symptoms, it may be suffering from the following:
Fertilizer - Manganese Deficiency
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/40100-41022/40618.html
2. Crown Pales
Crown is pale. It appears yellow or gray in color. Other leaves may be affected, but the chlorosis appears predominantly in the young leaves of the crown
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/40100-41022/40600.html
3. Chlorosis: Condition describing the yellowing of leaves. Typically caused by either insufficient light or an imbalance of essential elements. Also see Interveinal Chlorosis and Halo-ing.
4. Fertilizer - Manganese Deficiency
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/40100-41022/40618.html
5. Visible insects or related pests.
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/40100-41022/40615.html
6. Aphids
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/diagnosis/aphids.html
7. Leaves Pale: Possible Causes
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/10100-10108/10101-01.html
Doctor Optimara is great.
Me I would isolate and treat all plants near eacy other for 3 months. If I have a plant real bad I would take leaves treat them and set them to grow new plants in case Mom plant does not live. And if the plant was real bad I'd throw it away.
Hope this helps please let us know how it works out for you.
Welcome to our African violet forum :))
Allison
OK I fount it in Fisrt Class !
Champagne Pink (7945) 10/08/1993 (S. Sorano) Double light pink pansy. Crown variegated green, white and pink, plain, ovate. Semiminiature trailer
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So the crown should be variegated green, white and pink.
Oh yes do you have orange speckles or orange crust on the crown or any where ? It was hard for me to see/
This would mean too much fetilizer.
Wow Allison - Thanks for all the great info and links!!! I got the name backwards it is Champagne Pink. I got it at the Violet Barn in PA more than 6 months ago.
How far apart do they have to be to be considered isolated?
I also have a Genetic Carmine that just sits there doing nothing. No growing, no dying, no flowers - it is sorta limp - I will go to Optimara and see if I can figure that one out.
Thanks - Kim
Oh, we posted at the same time. No orange speckles.
First class picture
Champagne Pink (7945) 10/08/1993 (S. Sorano) Double light pink pansy. Crown variegated green, white and pink, plain, ovate. Semiminiature trailer
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Is this your plant ?
Isolation in a different room, or greenhouse or if no room bag it.
Not good if the plant is just sitting there. Did you get it at Violet Barn the same time ?
Gosh and a gorgeous to die for plant
Genetic Carmine (8896) 11/24/2000 (Jeff Smith) Semidouble-double dusky coral-red pansy. Mosaic variegated green, pink and beige, plain/red back. Standard
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Hope it just their diets. But in six months plant should be growing a lot.
Plant Growth Slow: Possible Causes
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/60100-61004/60701.html
That looks nothing like my Champagne Pink in the first picture- I wish. Did they sell me a mis-named one I wonder. Jill (critter) has one, not sure where she got it. I wonder what it looks like?
Yes, Genetic Carmine came from the Violet Barn. It has definitely not grown at the same rate as the others bought there on the same day. Irish Laughter, doing great. Mac's Stop Sign, doing great. The Champagne Pink trailer is doing great growthwise except for the buggies. Rebel's Splatterkake - outta control with suckers I am giving to Jill.
Edited for spelling
This message was edited Jan 28, 2006 2:42 PM
Aphids shouldn't give you that color problem, though....
Why not try giving it a bit of mag and iron? Have any epsom salts? A cal-mag fertilizer (for tomatoes etc)? Ironite (often used for lawns)? You only want to add a minuscule amount.
Also, if you use the same fertilizer all the time, check to see if it includes trace minerals - some do and you don't have to worry about all this other stuff in addition to NPK fertilization.
Kim if you have had Champagne Pink for six months it has not grown much sorry. Have you taken suckers off of it ? As it's a trailer ? If you get it healthy just take one or two leaves off the crown and it will start trailing for you.
So all your plants came from Violet Barn. And they ave all been together ? Six months is a long growing period. A lot of growth should be seen.
Optimara has a lot of reason for slow growth .
It is the the Genetic Carmine that has not grown. Maybe I did pot in too big a pot - one of the reasons for slow growth.
The Champagne Pink is growing fine - it has aphids or something hence the yellowing leaves. I sprayed with Neem.
I had two AV's before the Violet Barn plants. A Noid from Jill - doing beautifully and blooming as we speak and another Noid by BF has had for years.
I have Epsom salts - how much is miniscule - a pinch?
I had aphids on Lantana [I thought it was white fly] that I have since thrown out since I couldn't get rid of them - I'll buy them this spring instead. I thought you might like to see the pics of the little buggers...Yuck!!
The plant is supose to have crown vareigation .
The danger of Aphids is compounded by the fact that many Aphids carry viruses
Aphid's can cause slow growth.
Leaves pale. They appear yellow or grayish in color.
And more...
http://www.optimara.com/doctoroptimara/diagnosis/aphids.html
It can be several things.
Hmm, that does look like what was on the stock but not what is on the AV. Mine look like little dew drops. ARGHHH.
Champagne Pink must have been small when you got it as it's tiny now ?
When you treat a plant treat it every 7-10 days and treat at least 3 times. It can take months even a year to see damage in a plant.
Your right Anita Yuke.
Allison - My Champagne Pink is the one in the first picture on this thread. It has grown quite a lot since it came in a 2 inch pot last year and now it is in an oval 8 x 3.
Kim, do you really mean the Violet Barn (Rob's), or do you mean the Violet Gallery?
I got my 'Champagne Pink' at The Violet Gallery (in PA), and it looks like the picture in FC, only smaller. :-)
Here's what it looked like when I got it. The leaves seem much smaller than those on your plant.
I knew I was going to confuse those two. I bought them at the Violet Gallery in PA tag is the same as yours but not the plant. I am going to the website and look at the pics again - maybe I can figure it out. I guess I will have to wait until it blooms to figure it out.
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This message was edited Jan 28, 2006 4:42 PM
Yup Jill's is Champagne Pink :)) Jill how long have you had yours and how much has it grown ?
In six months a plant should grow a good amount and bloom too !
I've had mine since October, and it has about doubled in size. It has 3 crowns now, but really hasn't started trailing. However, I also have a couple of cuttings going...
This cutting was taken from the original plant in November.
And here's another crown cutting that was taken from this first cutting...
It's about 4 weeks old in this photo.
Well, I have a completely different plant. Have a leaf to spare? I will swing by the V Gallery on my way up to Carlisle in a couple of weeks and see if she can ID my plant.
-Kim
Kim, you may have one of those potted cuttings! :-)
When you swing by VG with your plant, just make sure you don't bring it inside the barn and infect her AV nursery with whatever is ailing it. We've placed orders already, and we quite selfishly don't want her plantlets to be affected, LOL!
Jill yours with three crowns plus the cutting has grown healthy.
Kim's plant is sick and has not had healthy growth.
Yes pleae don't bring the plant in put it into plastic baggie. Also email them first about it.
Insect , bugs, can travel, when working with plants outside they can come in with you wash good and change. Bleach disinfect any tools used working with Av's. Bleach new and old pots , never re-use pots or soil. Isolate every new plant.
What ever grows outside never comes into my home.
Thrips and more can come in screens. I don't open my windows. They can be under your nails..and more.
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