On another group Joe Burns who is in charge of FC ; posting about putting down a link and getting a Sport and Registering it....He posted a link to the list ...very fascinating :))
From: Joe Bruns
Subject: African Violet Sports
Sometimes if you put down a leaf, a sport will appear among the
plantlets. You might consider naming it, listing it in the AVML (and
First Class), and even possibly registering it. However, how do you know
if someone else had previously discovered and named this sport? I have
posted a list at http://www.avsa.org/Library/sports.htm where you can
look up the name of the plant from which your sport originated, and see
if it has produced other named sports that are similar to yours. (If
they are similar enough that the differences can be attributed to
cultural effects, you should consider it to be the same sport.)
The list goes back to 1980. After compiling the list, I found at least
three instances where the same sport has been registered with different
names. Without a reference like this, it's almost impossible for the
plant registration committee to check all registration records for
possible duplication before registering a sport. The list should help to
prevent future duplications. It will be updated as new sports are
registered.
Joe Bruns
Like for example ;
Neptune's Jewels (9179) 02/03/2003 (Lyndon Lyon Greenhouses/Sorano) Semidouble-double chimera pink large frilled star/white stripe, blue fantasy. Medium green, plain, serrated. Standard
***** Is a Sport of *******
Beachcomber (S. Sorano) Semidouble-double white large star/variable pink and blue mottled edge. Medium green. Large
African Violet Sports
http://www.avsa.org/Library/sports.htm
The following is a list of African violet sports that have been listed or registered since 1980.
If you have discovered a sport, look up the name of the original plant in the left column,
to see if the sport has been discovered and named by someone else.
African Violet Sports " I fount this very interesting
Oh yes the information I put about Sports came in my mail box.from Joe Burns , he does want people to know this info and registering Sports under new name. I think it is interesting if you put a leaf down of Av Mary Jane ( made up name)
and it Sports to you can register it and name Mary Jack ! But he wants people to check the list to make sure the same Sport has not already been named and registered.
This message was edited Dec 30, 2005 10:43 PM
SUPER link Ali! Thanks
Allison, are birth marks a sign of sporting?
No Birth marks are not Sports. to the best of my knowledge Birth makrs are Genetic Trait .
The "skin" of African Violets is not always uniform in color or complexion. At times, you may see red or white spots on either the leaves or the flowers. At other times, you may find traces of green on the flowers, especially on those that white or bi-colored. Very often, these are merely genetic traits and, as such, are harmless to the Violet. Such traits may be permanent, or they may only be temporary
The African violets " Skin" is not always uniform in color or complextion. At times you may see different colors red or whitew spots ( maybe other colors) ) on the leaves or on the flowers. Sometimes you may find traces of green on the flowers , especially on the white and bi-colored. Most often they spots on leaves can be Birth Marks or Genetic Traits , they are harmless to the violet Genetic traits may be permanent , or may only be temporary.
Sometimes a mark of color is not always a birth mark and can be a problem for a violet , then go to Dr. Optimara .
I am pretty sure a " Sprot" has to bloom true three generations to be registered under a new name.
A Sport is also called mutant . . Mutation: is a change that exhibits physical characteristics indicative genetic change in that variety..A Chimera African violet is a mutation. African violet does not bloom true . these are all called Sports. I have been looking at the list and finding the foliage is sometimes different . The genetic change can be be induced , or spontaneous change is unkown . They say when propagating by leaf, about one in every hundred leaves will produce mutation . " Also known as a Sport"
OK I did email Joe Burns to make sure what I said is correct.
Allison
Important a Noid is not a Sport nor never could be a Sport.
Also a Sport must have one named parent, the Sport would be grown by a leaf from the named parent, or you may have bought a named plant and it Sported. Also you'd have to know it was not misnamed. .
I wrote to Joe Burns he is wonderful and also a fast help ! I just got an email back already :))
allison wrote:
Is a birth mark on a leaf considered a Sport ? I did not think so but someone in our group asked so I wanted to make sure. Also to register a Sport grown from a leaf does it have to be third geration of blooming true ?
A birthmark is not exactly a sport. It's usually unstable. It does indicate, however, that the plant is prone to instability, and it may produce a sport at some time in the future. Sports worth naming and propagating should be an improvement over the variety from which it sported.
Yes, to register the plant, it must be grown vegetatively for three generations to prove that it is stable. You don't count the original sport as one generation. In other words, when you put down a leaf of the sport, the babies are considered the first generation. (In the case of a chimera, sucker propagation is used.)
Joe Bruns
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