I have just learned that the hoya I have as H. globulosa is NOT that hoya. And here I was SOOOoooo confident in that identity which I received from a well known hoya 'authority'. Story:
I received a H. villosa and when I got it, it looked just like my H. globulosa. I sent this photo to David Liddle who tells me that neither is H. villosa and neither is H. globulosa and that both are an unidentified species..... (mine is on the right)
Back to square one. Whatever....I like the leaves!!!!
Yes it is a pretty leaf. Their names get so confusing.. Has it bloomed for you?
No, never. Thinking it was H. globulosa, I was told it needed COOL temps to bloom as it was from the Himalayas....
So if we have a globulosa from you, should we change the tag to noid? I don't care, I love this plant. It always seemed to me like it was a sort of eriostemma. Great plant whatever it's name is. Thanks for the heads up.
Heather
Yes, Heather...perhaps H. aff. NOID would be better!!!! LOL :>(
I think I have that plant too, altho I got mine from Norma, also labeled globulosa. Does it have a fuzzy back to the leaves?
Good grief....I left mine outside for the winter thinking it would prefer the cool temps. If it is not really globulosa....I may be killing it.
Did David say where it is from?
Marcy
I have this labeled as globulosa too (from Logee's) and I also have one labeled as villrosa. I agree with everyone that the leaves are beautiful, and could be called Henry for all I care:-). Let's see if someone can get it to bloom!!
Blessings,
Awanda
Nope...that is all he told me, "....an, as yet, unidentified species". Isn't life just full of surprises?
I have mine sitting outside, where it gets cool temps, upper 40's in summer occasionaly at night, lower 40's upper 30's in winter. It's been out since early summer, and is growing very happily (and rapidly). I'm going to leave it out over the winter, and we'll see what he has to say.
OK...now I am really confused (as usual). I just got a H. villosa cutting from David, and it looks JUST LIKE the leaves in the above picture. It also looks (and feels) just like the one I have as H. globulosa. So did someone determine that those ARE villosa, or what?
Marcy
Carol, I am keeping my H. globulosa/H. villosa out on the back deck. It's starting to get down into the 50's here at night, and soon it will get on down to the 40's. Can this plant take that kind of weather? Is so, I'll keep it outside and see if those cooler temps could lead to some blooms next year. Lemme know.
Ann
I left the one I have as H. globulosa stayed out all winter last year and it was fine. However, we did have a mild winter. If it dips much below 40, there are a bunch out there that I will be bringing in. There is supposed to be an El Nino (or however that is spelled) this year, so lots of rain. None of them like the combination of cold and wet together. Most of mine that stay out are protected from getting rained on, except for the ones I leave on the olive tree. Those are only the hardiest ones like the carnosas and pubicalyx varieties.
Marcy
I have a med/lg plant of what is supposed to be H. globulosa that I aquired from Mel. I guess I need to go and check mine out and compare the leaves to what i've seen of globulosa and villosa.
If globulosa needs to be grown cool,then the plant I have most likely isnt globulosa at all because my plant has been in a hot gh all spring and summer and has grown very well,whatever it might be.
dmichael
Carol and all you folks who appear to be confused on this or any other species are still trying to do the impossible by trying to identify the different species by the leaves. The foliage can, and should only be used as a guideline, not an absolute identifying characteristic. What you have here in this photo Carol, is two cuttings of the same plant. It's the species that I know as H. villosa. I also have another very similar plant that I know as H. globulosa. The H. globulosa did not come from the Himalayan mountains as seems to be inferred but was discovered by J.D. Hooker f. in India and Burma, in the foothills and valleys at the base of the Himalaya's. These valleys where these plants came from are not really what could be considered cold. The temperatures run in the 60 to 70 degree mark during the day and drop into the 40's at night. The plant that I have had for the past 18 years as globulosa has never bloomed and is not terribly happy in my greenhouse during the summer when temperatures can get 80, 90 or more but love it outside because our nighttime temperatures almost always drop into the 40's at night even during the summer. When I have to bring them in for the winter they become quite unhappy. I have left them out a few times to see what would happen and at 38 degrees they begin to die, at 35 degrees they are completely dead.
H. villosa on the other hand was discovered in Viet Nam by J. costantin and would naturally be more agreeable to warmer temperatures. I have only had this plant for a little over 2 years but it now has peduncles coming and it has been in my nice warm greenhouse the whole time. As all who have observed it, it is truly one of the most beautiful leaves in the hoya genus. Both of the plants with these names have been legally published in Latin with descriptions but as far as I know, there has never been any herbarium sheets found to back up their validity. Since herbarium sheets are supposed to be composed of both foliage and flowers, if no sheets were ever found to study the flower parts, I can't imagine how anyone could determine whether the plants we have are the plants under discussion or not. I'm going to post photos of both plants, and let the "chips fall where they may"
The first plant is the one I know as H. globulosa
And this is the plant that I know as H. villosa. Very similar, at least in the foliage. If it does go ahead and bloom, I can at least compare it to an old photo of the plant I have as H. globulosa taken by one of our San Diego members about 20 years ago. It's a beautiful flower.
Annie W.
Excellent info! Thank you Ann.
Thanks Annie for the information.
Annie, I love your posts. They are full of info and direct to the point. Thank you for the education! Have a great day and God bless. -joanne
nice pics too!
Ann...does the globulosa have the fuzzy backs of the leaves like the villosa does?
Thanks for that informative post. Very interesting. The leaves are certainly very similar.
Marcy
Marcy what I have labeled as globulosa does not have fuzz on the back of the leaves.
Blessings,
Awanda
OK...then I must have had a villosa all along that was mislabeled as globulosa.
I have kept it outside for the past 2 winters thinking it liked cool temps. It has been fine out there, so I guess I will try it again with the thought to bring it in if it goes below 40, although last year it did go to 37 a couple of times.
Marcy
What I have labled as H globulosa from Mel does have fuzz on the backs of the leaves. I'm not talking top of your head kind of fuzzy but it is fuzzy!!! Guess mine might be villosa as we.
dmichael
I guess the one I have labeled as villosa is that since it is fuzzy on the back of the leaves.
Blessings,
Awanda
Awanda how do you grow your plant? I keep mine in a very bright indirectly lit part of the gh and it never comes out.
So it is grown in temps during the spring and sumemr ranging anywhere from 80-95F sometimes more. Winter temps get into the low to mid 30's for the most part but I keep the gh heated to around 40-45F.
I just got this plant as a cutting from Mel early last year I think. Getting kind of old here and the memory isnt what it used to be!! It might of been in 04 that I got it.
It just kind of sat for a while,grew some and then almost died. I managed to save 2 cuttings and they have grown into a very nice plant but so far no flowers.
I guess i'll change my tag to say globulosa/villosa until I get a more positive ID.
dmichael
Dmichael the villosa is a cutting so I've been growing it inside underneath grow lights, and it's doing great. The globulosa I grow in the greenhouse during the winter months and bring it inside during the summer months, it too is growing and doing great.
Blessings,
Awanda
