I got this cutting from one of my local nuserys the plant was almost 8ft tall and had flowers that resemble Hoya carnosa but the leaves to me don't look the same. The bloom was very white and a dull red center. He just happned to be triming the beast so he gave me a cupple cuttings.
I also could use some help rooting and growing it Please!!!!!
Here is another photo same cutting
Heavinscent... Colors of flowers can change with environment and nutrition...but I think you are on the money...your cutting could be an H. carnosa, or an H. motoskei (close cousin) which has white corollas and red center. Just my guess.
There are lots of threads here on rooting and growing:
That cutting is prime! Dip the end in rooting hormone (or not), bury into fast draining mix up to the second node from the bottom...keep damp. H. motoskei prefers growing in the cool and lower light but is tolerant of most all conditions!!!
Good score.
Heavinscent
I have this one as well. It came to me labeled H. sp. IML 164, after showing the plant to Carol she identified it as H. motoskei or H. carnosa. Pretty plant, I see your has crazy leafs on it too, one dimpled, one flat. I can't wait for it to flower. This one is easy to root, thank goodness. Do as Carol posted but I would add use a small 2" container. It also roots in water pretty good too. Good luck
Tami
Thank you both for your input!
GOOD suggestion, Tami
I did have it rooting in water With a baggie over it only because I really wasnt sure what way would be better. The first chance I had I posted this.
It seems from what I have read in this forum each varity likes something a little diffrent. So I just wanted to be sure.
Also, I don't know if it was from being in the baggie or if is just a happy plant but little white nubbies are comming out all over the place not just where it was in water should I remove the baggie? Or is this a good thing?
The little white nubbies are roots starting to form....most all species will do this in excess humidity...NOT BAD. When you have roots to plant, they will grow too or you can cut them off....or if they get long you can lay the cutting down on the soil and all will grow and you may even get a lot of sprouts at all the nodes....
Actually...most hoyas all root the same way!..they are tough cooking....don't be afraid of them....LOL
I guess I am a little afraid I must admit alot of the threads are for problems. I don't want to kill it.
LOL at myself I didnt think I was so transparent.... note to self hide terror better!
You are doing just great.... When you get a longer piece of a cutting, sometimes it's a good idea to cut them and start them different ways...that way you can decide which you and the plant like most!!!
Heavinscent,
I am rooting challenged. I can do the Hoya's with hard stems ,( I think that is what it's called) but on anything else I just really fret over it. I need to learn to just pot them up and get on to something else. Hey and you have roots already so your half way there. Do you have other Hoya's?
I really dont know if I am rooting challanged as I have never done it before.
I recently ordered 3 varitys Australis (subspecies ?) Odorata (cant rember new name) and Bella. For now they all look very healthy but small.
I'm pretty "root makin challenged" however, I have been having sooo much luck putting cuttings into a glass of water, clear glasses, setting them under a walmart 24" plant light, and a heating pad underneath. I've rooted thick stems, thin stems. The roots get really long really fast. I really think it is the bottom heat that does the trick. I got a plant heatmat for $18 at a garden store. Best $18 spent in a long time. Before the heatmat, I had countless casualities.
Heather
I need to get a heat mat but no luck finding anything with all the Xmas crud out. Not that Im a baahumbug I just wish they would leave a winter garden section opened. Back to rooting, when rooting in water (any cutting) does the cutting have to be floating in the water or is it ok for the stem to rest on the bottom? I have some Brug cuttings comming and I need to brush up on my rooting skills.
I can't find a heating mat either. But I found that the top of my light stand is pretty toastie so I have a couple of starts there with a plastic bag over the top. Heavinscent I don't know about the stem touching the bottom, hmmmm my guess would be it shouldn't matter.
But remember I'm challenged!!!
Tami have you checked ebay for a heat mat? I got one of mine from there. You can also order them online, just do a search for "propagation mat".
Blessings,
Awanda
Heavinscent - I'm a newbie at this, but instead of a heating mat, I got a wet/dry heating pad, placed a cookie sheet over the top to better distribute the heat (thanks to a suggestion here on this forum) and rooted cuttings that way. The heating pad I got has an automatic turn off in case a person forgets to watch it (!). I keep it on the low setting. All mine got roots. Karen
I found some great deals on heat mats from a Hydroponic web site. I am thinking it was something like "Harrys." If my old brain is working right??? , I believe he is on the Garden Watch Dog. His prices and shipping were very reasonable and my items were shipped fast.
I did find a small one on ebay, but it wasn't a wet & dry one. I will go search again, and also try Harry's. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to go check it out.
I'm pretty sure the ones that are propagation mats can stand getting wet. I haven't ignited myself yet. I do mist the cuttings on it, and water some that are in perlite/vermiculite, thinking about just starting the latter over in some water. It just seems faster, and I can see the roots forming, definitely a huge ego boost when I see them forming!
Tami....your sister, Sandy, found me a source for them....
The Wet/Dry ones are the Human kind you find at the Pharmacy...heat mats. With just a few plants, they work....put a cookie tray with short sides and fill it with gravel or sand....that way the heat is evenly distributed and you have more room.
:>)
Carol,
Are you talking about a regular ole heating pad, that we use for sore muscles? Now I have a couple of these. It seems wrong to me. Are you sure it wont electracute me? This has happened to me befor and it was not pretty, so you can see where I am a bit skeptic.
Yes, Tami. But the pad has to be sold as Wet/Dry.... We did use a regular one, just kept water away from it and grew everything on a cookie sheet filled with pea gravel that rested on it.....
HTH...:>)
Heather, just to get it straight ... as a fellow water-rooter I want to make sure I get what you are saying - you put the water glasses on the heatmat. Do you leave it on 24/7? Or, do you turn it on during the day/night/etc.?
I have just had a rotton casualty! The subcalva that Patricia sent me withered and died in the water glass (I am VERY upset) and will do practically anything to not have something like that happen again. I am going to get on e-bay right now and look for one of those heating mats!
Thanks
Ann
Ann, I leave heat mat on 24/7. Have you ever seen those small glass coke glasses? You can get them usually at dollar stores/walmart. That's what I use for the glass, probably about 4 oz. I haven't been using a rooting hormone or anything, just ST water. They sit under a walmart bought plant light. Propogation heat mat, right under the glass. I put them off to the side of the mat, where it isn't as hot. I have some on a tray in the middle mixed with ones, I am trying to root in soil. No plastic bag over them. Are you getting a visual?
Heather
Ann...do you have any hydroponics stores near you? I found mine there. If not, pet stores also carry essentially the same thing as reptile heat mats for under aquariums, however they are very expensive there. You might try checking classified ads in your local papers for used reptile heat mats also. Usually they don't even get dirty from the critters as they go UNDER the aquariums & not in them.
Marcy
SAAAAAAAANDY c....Where are you?
Hi Tami...
I just ordered and received a heat mat from Lee Valley...works quite well so far....here is the link to it...
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&cat=2,43224&p=44602
Sandy
This message was edited Nov 20, 2005 1:11 PM
Thanks Heather - yup, I get the picture! I am going to try that.
Marcy, I do have a hydroponic store in town which I am going to call right now. I looked on e-bay and they seemed pretty expensive when you add in shipping.
Thanks y'all!!
Ann
Sandy,
Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I just keep getting side tracked. Now I ran across rooting gel? Has anyone ever tried this on their cuttings?
Tami
HI Tami...
I have tried the rooting gel (from Lee Valley) if thats what you are referring to.....i have tried it with bella cuttings, compacta and multiflora...it worked well with those...Multiflora took longer to root than the rest...I tried it more so in the summer but i think that combined with the heating mat and lights, would be a good combo to start cuttings in the winter.....
Sandy
Sandy, I like that you can see through it and watch the roots grow. And that your cutting stays up. Can you reuse it? Well we should have the best looking cuttings around once we get off this website...
Tami
Thats funny Tami.......yes actually i have resused it....but then i put my own aluminum foil for the top once i punctured the original top of it with cuttings if you know what i mean...talk about being cheapo eh?...lol...i think after about reusing it twice, its had the bun!.....you can fit a lot of small, fine cuttings in there such as bella or lacunosa .....I am like you, i like watching the cuttings get roots....i am impatient...lol....
Sandy
Me to el cheapo at your service LOL. Oh good I can try heuschkeliana in it. I have roots on little "Lisa" at last, I'm glad I didn't mess that one up. Gonna have to get to ordering first thing tomorrow. Thanks for the info. Tami
