Does anyone know if 'shredded' is self-fertile?
It was the only one in bloom, (when it bloomed), and now it has two pods...
-T
Shredded...self fertile?
It's not self fertile, and I find it hard to pollinate at all! You no doubt have another brung somewhere that a moth or bee knows about even if you don't.
Good luck with the seeds; a nice shredded orange or pink would be very welcome!
If I remember correctly I believe it was Monika that told us it is possible for brugs that are normally not self fertile to produce their own seedpods. When this happens the seeds are not viable.
I hope you get any color ... even white in some kind of unusual shape! The possibilities are exciting!
Hm...
Well, I know this neighborhood pretty well, and know the only few gardeners even better.
They didn't even know what a brug WAS until I showed them/shared with them. I guess it could have been pollinated by a brug 6 houses down...
If that is the case, it would be Grimaldi x Shredded.
Would moths travel that far? I thought they pretty much just stuck to their own area?...
Also, if it was self pollinated and the pods are infertile, won't they drop off? My cherry tree does that...produces little cherry clusters and then drops them all...(there isn't another cherry tree around to pollinate it, and it is not self fertile)
I would think if the seeds are viable, the pod will keep maturing, or if it is not viable, they'll drop?
Vee8ch-do you know where that thread is? If they are self-fertilized and not going to produce anything, I don't want to even bother with them, and probably should cut them off to save energy and encourage more blooms...on the other hand, I don't want to mess up with something that has a chance at producing something neat.
Did she mention them fully developing, and still not being viable?
Thanks, you two!
-T
Absolutely yes a moth will travel 6 houses away.
I think it was another site where the infertile seedpod subject came up. I don't remember that she mentioned pod drop so I cannot answer that question T.
Please don't cut the seed pods off. You will always wonder if they were fertile or not. And you might just get something really special. Shredded White crosses are not common!!!!!!
Not too long ago a grower posted a picture of her bee created double orange. .... ya just never know!
Ok, lol...
I won't cut them off, then.
I just didn't want to mess with them, if it would be a waste of time.
-T
Taylor, as far as I know, Cypress Gardens is the only one that is self fertile. Somebody speak up here if you know about any others. 'Seems like I read about one other one, but I can't remember which one it was. It was not shredded, though.
Kay
I always thought that the ..b.sanguineas and b.arborea were the only self fertile brugs .
They can also be crossed on each other but nothing else.
News to me that a b.versicolor (Cypress Gardens) is a self fertile also.
This message was edited Nov 7, 2005 8:53 PM
Scoot, I'm not looking it up right now, but I think I read that in the Preissel book.
Kay
Well I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, Taylor! If you need help in growing some of the seeds.........
;) Donna
I just happened to have my well used Preissel brug book right here for I was looking up something earlier. And my goodness, Kay, I am so impressed. On page 89 Preissel does say that he thinks it is self pollinating because almost every flower set fruit. So I am not exactly sure if that is true or if there are just very busy bees in Florida. LOL
"'Cypress Gardens' (versicolor x ?) - trumpet-shaped, drooping flowers, margins upturned for a very elegant look. Sets seed heavily so .......may .......be self-fertile. Color varies with climate and can be pinkish or "almond colored" as Preissel and Preissel describe it."
from http://www.raretrees.org/brug081.html
>>>... not self fertile to produce their own seedpods. When this happens the seeds are not viable....>>>
False pregnancy???
I don't know. Anybody ever planted them to see? I usually just take the pods off because I want them to bloom some more. This plant is the most prolific bloomer I have. It is spectacular in bloom.
I have never really noticed a slow down of blooms when I have pods. And I have had lots of pods on one tree at one time. Has anyone else?
Kell, I have not noticed this on brugs either. I do know that the reason we deadhead many flowers, though, is that a plant's entire mission in life is to reproduce. After many plants develop seeds, they think their mission in life is accomplished and stop flowering or die.
Unless the pods are something I've hybridized or otherwise have a reason for preserving, I take them off also to keep the nutrients that might be supporting flowers from being used up by pods that I don't want.
Kay