Photos from a plumeria show

I went to a plumeria show in a province in Thailand this week. Here are some interesting ones!

Siam Red (aka Daeng Sayam) with a super large inflo. Clare, how is your SR doing?

Plumeria?

Dwarf.....I want this one!

In my opinion, the best fragrant plumeria is P. alba. Below is a photo taken from a tree in my garden.

I forgot to post the photo of variegated plumeria from the show. Nutrient deficiency?

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Kukiat,

My friend just returned from Bangkok. I traded her friend there, Daranee, a Plumeria alba 'Anegada' from a wild Virgin Islands species, and, a Plumeria jamaicensis. In return she has sent me 5 plumeria! What a trade! I am getting a Jack's Purple, a variegated one, and 3 others that are to be a surprise. I am very excited! She mailed the packages home before leaving Thailand and said they arrived yesterday as she got home! She'll bring them to me in the next day or two.

As always, you posted wonderful pics. I also sell Daeng Sayem. It is probably among to most difficult to root for me here. I have even gotten the grafted from Thailand where it reportedly can also be difficult to root. It is a lovely flower!

Brad

Hi Kukiat! Beautiful, beautiful photos! I just love all of them!

My Siam Red did not make it. I tried to root it, and when it started to rot, I sent the remaining piece to Luc to graft for me, but I think the piece didn't make it because it was not returned with the others. I have sent him an email about it. He did graft the Siam Ruby for me successfully though, and I think you said you liked that one better anyway.

Your second plumeria that you posted is P. species tuberculata. I got one this past summer and sent it to Luc to graft for me. It is struggling right now to survive after returning from being grafted, and one of it's tiny branches has died back, but it has two other tiny branches. If it makes it, I will surely send you a cutting of it. I'll take a picture of mine and post it here as soon as my camera batteries finish charging.

I love that dwarf one!

I am so happy to know that the best fragrant plumeria is P. alba because I have one thanks to you! Yippee!

That variegated plumeria is just lovely. I have some seedlings with lots of red in their leaves, and they start to turn that color just before they fall off. I'll try to find a picture of one of mine as an example. You are right that it doesn't look like a typical variegation. Due to the irregularity of it, it may be the FMV. Here is one of my seedlings below with red leaves. They change to the red color of your picture only when they are about to fall off.

Brad, that is so exciting! What a great trade:-)

Edited to fix spelling.

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I just noticed that your P. species tuberculata is crested! Cool!

Here's my P. tuberculata. It had a bunch of leaves when it first arrived back from being grafted, and now it has dropped all but one of them. It actually has three branches but had a fourth which died back. Here it is when it first came back from being grafted:

Here it is today. I hope it makes it! I like the way this one looks. I don't know much about the flowers except that they are white, and I hope they are fragrant.

Brad, that's a great trade. Not many are interested in Plumeria species in Thailand. But, to me, they are so fascinating. Daeng Sayam is hard to root and has a much longer dormant period as compared to others in my garden. I have never seen the inflo of Daeng Sayam that big before. The inflo was a little larger than 1 ft across.

Brad,......Is the P. alba 'Anegada' different to the other P. alba? I do not know the variety name of my alba.

Clare, I will send you all the things that did not survive for sure. You are right that I like Siam Ruby better. It is a more compact tree with very nice solid red flowers, long blooming period (always has flowers on the tree) and very short dormant stage.

Thanks Clare for the ID of P. tuberculata. This is also very interesting one. My wife also told me that the alba is the best and the most fragrant plumeria and I do agree. We have this for at least three yrs with no flower. It's a long wait but worth it.

One of my seedling also developed red pigments like the one in the picture. After it was fertilized, the color turned green.

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I love the pics everyone.
I have a Daeng Sayam from Brad, shes doin wonderful for sure. ;)
Neat trades Brad!
Clare, thats an interesting plant you had grafted, lots of leaf nodes.
Ill enjoy seeing the blooms next year! ;)

Thanks, Kukiat and Michael! I too love the species and am really looking forward to their blooms.

Kukiat, you are so nice. Luc still has my Thailand Mermaid Gem, and I want it back! I think the Coral Cream didn't make it that I sent to him, but I haven't heard back from Luc about the Thai Mermaid Gem. All the others came back grafted just fine:-) I also sent him the Dwarf Richard Criley Rainbow cuttings that I purchased from HawaiiSandy (for $65, ouch!), and Luc said that they rotted. He said told me:

"The only problem are those Richard Criley, both died. I had a short visit with him in California and told him jokingly that he was a SOB to propagate. He took it nicely."

Clare, I hear Criley is one of the all-time worst. Luc told me this as well.

Kukiat, P. alba 'Anegada comes from Anegada in the US Virgin Islands and grows wild there. It seems to have much thinner leaves that the regular alba. I only have my one little tree left and I am evaluating it for the next 2 years to see how it blooms and grows in comparison to the regular alba. Mine is still small and hasn't bloomed yet.

Brad

Thanks, Brad. I've heard that too. That's a shame because it would be nice to have a dwarf rainbow! I would love to know about your P. alba 'Anegada' after you have evaluated it and after it has bloomed for you. Please do post pictures when it blooms. It sounds fascinating.

I ordered Criley from Millton but the cutting rotted in the package. I also spent $65 for this one.

I have some other P. species in my collection. I am not quite sure exactly what they are. Is this one P. stenopetala?

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P. stenophyllus?

P. xxxxx? It has tiny flowers (the size of a US quarter) with mild fragrance, shiny, dark green and thick texture leaves.

Nice collection there buddy!!

Awesome, Kukiat! Yes, I agree the first one is Stenopetala, but I'm not familiar with the other two. They are lovely though. I had a listing somewhere of all the species, but I can't seem to find it right now.

Kukiat, could the third one be Plumeria bahamiensis? Here's a picture I have of what it is supposed to look like, but I'm not sure about the source of the picture:

Thanks Michael and Clare.

Clare, the third one (P. xxxxx) is somewhat different to the bahamiensis in your photo. The leaves of my P. xxxxx are so shiny and smoother. The P. species are very fascinating and I think they can be a good souce of genes that are rust-free. Thanks for the help, Clare.

Kukiat, here's a link to some other Plumeria species. Could your P. xxxxx be P. obtusa "Isabella"? Link: http://www.floridacolors.com/plumeria_species_et_al.htm

Thanks Clare, I will take a look.