Do any of you have this one, or do you know of one similar......I like the foliage.
http://asiaticanursery.com/product_info.php/products_id/937
Is anyone at all familiar with it?
I've talked to one person who has ordered plants from these folks....they're known for their high 'packing/shipping' costs.....but I'm told that they do have the rarest of the rare plants, and that the ID's are normally accurate. (They do have my long coveted Dracaena goldieana...but I still can't force myself to take the chance!)
Anyone have experience with Asiatica?
TIA for any info.
A nice one
It looks like one also sold as Hoya sp. Biak or if it's Hoya sp. Biakensis... I'm not sure. I bought it from Botanova this spring and it's starting to get leaves like the ones on the photo in the link.
Here's my little plant: http://www.myhoyas.com/Hoya%20sp.%20Biak%20min.htm
Christina
Hmmmmm It kinda looks like my H. sp. Biak, but none of my leaves are speckled, certainly not as heavily as the Asiatica one. My H. sp. Biak is a very fast grower...
Christina, could it be that H. sp. lao that you sent me?
Carol
No, it's not the Lao 1. It looks like the sp. Biak and I've seen really speckled leaves on this. My little plant is getting more and more speckles on the new leaves...
Here is sp. Biak with flowers: http://www.angelfire.com/hi/HoyasinHawaii/
Christina
OK. Mine hasn't bloomed yet but the ID is certain. Gotta wait I guess. Could be growing conditions, too.
Carol
My sp Biak, which I got from Hanne, has lots of greyish specks on it. Some leaves are completely covered.
Blessings,
Awanda
ooh...lovely!
I must say, that looks pretty darned close.
Christina, Awanda...how do you both grow this one?
Do you find it relatively easy?
Since it's the foliage I'm likin'.....I may have to search for H. sp. Biak.
Well, mine is still only a bigger cutting and hasn't really "earned" a place in a window yet. That's probably why it doesn't grow much... I liked the leaves too and that's why I got it. Okay, for the yellow flowers too!
I don't have much experience with it (yet!) but it seems easy.
Christina
Mine is very easy to grow...and very forgiving....
Nan I just kinda grow it, water when almost dry; it's in the greenhouse, so lots of warmth and humdity, Seems to be a fast grower.
Blessings,
Awanda
Awanda, that silvery sheen is beautiful! And it has yellow flowers? Oh dear.. another one goes to the top of the "gotta have" list. You people have to stop this. ;) What I don't know won't cost me!! However... Nan, I'm with you. Beautiful foliage.
Barb
I sent the photo in Asiatica to David Liddle, and just got this back from him:
The Hoya pictured reminds me of the plant in circulation as H. biakensis. H. biakensis is an unpublished name and in any count unnecessary as the plant is Hoya collina.
Hmmmm. And the beat goes on.
Carol
As the "Hoya Turns" continues. My sp biak from Hanne doesn't look anything like the collina I received from Carol. The one from Carol has no silver blotches and the leaves are shaped differently than the one from Hanne.
Blessings,
Awanda
Yeah, Susan....and guess whose fault it is?! Ü
Barb....this is 'what *they* do'.....keep dangling the bait in front of you 'til you bite!! lol!
I guess I'm truly one of 'them' since I've just dangled one in front of you! haha!
Thanks, Carol....I swear there's more confusion amongst hoya ID's than those of *any other* plant family out there!!
So...I guess I'll look for both H. biakensis and collina....but what about H. sp. Biak.....is that simply a 'shortened' version of Biakensis, or a different one entirely???
Oh, geesh, Awanda....
I'm getting more confused by the minute!
No, doesn't look at all like my H. collina - which could be another clone or another species all together.
David and Dr. Paul Forster are writing a review of the yellow flowered species from PNG as well as the red flowered species. It should all become clear (hello?) when we read that. Will post anything I hear further...I got my H. collina from David...so I will question him on it.
It beats me where they come up with these names for hoyas like H. biakensis....I just know it is wrong.
I got a picture of the true H. chuniana today from David...and it is not mine nor any other deted. H. chuniana. I can't work with the format of the picture he sent....but will try to change it and post it with his notes.
FINALLY someone intelligent (David and Paul) is working on these yellow flowered species which have been in a muddle....
:>)
All I can say is THANK GOD for David---------Carol you know so much , but sometimes we need all the years of study and knowledge of David ! I guess it is the difference between a hobby and a life long work.....There are very few people that can come close to his knowledge and that sure is not any of us.................................AGAIN THANK YOU AND THANK DAVID
Thanks Sandy...I may know a tad bit more than the average bear, but only because I haven't anything else to do!!!! Right!
I asked David about my H. collina IML 0382 not having those specks on the leaves....and he says:
Carol
this is an example of why identification of a plant by leaves alone is so uncertain. The flowers are almost identical. We have three clones of H. collina, (0382, 1095, 1602), all with different leaves but very much the same flowers. I have attached pictures of 0382 and 1602.
The pictures are of the flowers, and the leaf in one IML 0382 which I have.
Later....
Nan you are definitely a bad girl dangling another hoya to drool over. How can we discipline her and the others that keep doing this (I won't mention other names). Would a 30 lashes with a wet noodle be sufficient?
;) Donna
Donna make that 30 lashes with a twined hoya vine:-)
Blessings,
Awanda
That would be more harsher, but it could hurt Nan and we wouldn't want to do that...would we??
:) Donna
ROTFLMBO!!!
I'm grateful that you're concerned about not hurting me, Donna!! lol!!
Neither one would hurt too bad....AND....if you used the hoya vine at least I could confiscate it and root it!! Might be worth it...come and git me! ;)
Carol......I don't know if it's possible, ( !?) but I'm becoming even more confused....are you planning to share the photos? (I hope!)
Meantime......guess what!? I found a beautiful datura cutting (wink, wink!) that looks just like H. sp. Biak!!! I'll probably have it in a couple of weeks!
A window keeps telling me I can't do it.
Can you forward the photos to someone who knows PhotoShop inside out?
Christina
Like you? I will do it NOW!! Thanks Christina. Will send you another photo he sent me of the REAL H. chuniana which we don't have!!
Carol, you explain them. I only post them...
Here's the first.
Christina
Number 2
Third and last.
Hi all
Show you a photo of H. sp biakensis flower.
Rosita
Nan, I'm confused! How could you find a cutting....wink, wink....that looks like a H. sp. Biak??????
Christina beautiful pictures you've taken of your hoyas!
Rosita your H. sp biakensis is so dainty looking.
:) Donna
They sure look alike...eh? The H. collinas and the H. sp. Biak? I KNOW I posted an expanation of the photos but it doesn't show up...OH well, really doesn't need any explanation.
Carol
That first picture with the black background is a beauty. Looks like a postcard.
Marcy
Oh, that was just an 'inside joke', Donna...I probably shouldn't have put it that way.
A good friend knew I was looking, and offered me a cutting for trade...so I'm getting one!! woo hoo!
Carol, correct me if I'm wrong here.
The first photo (with the black background) is what David Liddle says is the true chuniana.
The second one is of the sp. Biak and the third one is of collina or was it the other way around?
The photos are not mine (I wish!) - they were taken by David Liddle.
Christina
Again...anyone know (Carol, Christina, Rosita?)....are H. sp. Biak and Biakensis the same....is Biak just a shortened version of Biakensis?
Maybe a dumb question....but.....the confusion is still there.
Number one IS the true H. chuniana. Two and three are H. collina. The first one is there just for kicks...the information I received was about H. collina having very different leaves but common enough flowers. As for sp. Biak....not a clue. Sorry. Perhaps someone is brave enough to go on Chris Burton's forum and ask her.
lol!
I might do that....is it the MSN one?
Not sure I can even find it anymore?!
Okay.. I'll ask. Who is Chris Burton?
Nan I posted a picture of my sp Biakensis on the MSN forum, asking if that was the correct name. If I remember correctly :-), Chris said it was sp biak. I printed out what she said and if I can find the notes, I will post them. I had a rooted cutting of sp biak on my Dave's Garden store a couple of weeks ago, but someone purchased it:-)
Blessings,
Awanda
This message was edited Oct 21, 2005 10:26 AM
Chris Burton is a person who has studied hoyas for a very long time and is very knowledgeable!