I am getting my brugs ready to be inside for the winter and Ive been looking for something to keep the bugs away...can you use neem inside?..I see it takes care of spider mites and aphids which are a big problem for me around January....Judy
Neem question
Judy, I know of no reason you can't use it inside. I have and didn't have any bad affects. I think Kell is the expert on the Neem. Jeanette
Jeanette, I got little hints for other posts somewhere that it was toxic for people even if its natural....I sure didnt want to go spraying things in my small area that will hurt any of us....Judy
I've not heard that, I buy the real neem oil, stinks to high heavens , but I've used it straight on dogs for mange, great for athlete's foot. but don't use theneem oil you buy in the store strictly for plants for that LOL. Neem oil is highly antibacterial. kills any kind of fungus on your skin and great for excema etc... but this isn't the stuff that you spray on the plants. I wouldn't think that would be toxic at all for people. Not really sure though, I just know the neem oil I buy to put insoaps, skin, dogs, etc.. Is definitely not toxic for humans. But someone will come along here who uses it on their plants and will fill you in more than I know. I don't use it much on my plants, got too many, and it's costly LOL, I don't have to bring them in the house either though.
kathy
I found this on another thread, Kell wrote it. sounds like it answers your question though.
hope this helps.
I just copied and pasted it, here's the link
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/539832/
I prefer a soil systemic but haven't found one that kills the broadmites. I always end up spraying myself no matter how careful I am. That is another reason I like Neem, it is a natural, toxic free substance from what I have read. People actually buy it to put on their skin.
I spray all my brugs hard with water each time I water them. We do not get rain here at all so I like to wash them down. I think the mites like the shower. I understand these mites like it moist where as Spider Mites like dry conditions. At night here, the fog rolls in and the plants are always wet. Neem is good for my roses in that it is a natural fungicide also.
yes, INdeed, the smell of it is enough to drive off your worst enemy, LOL I'm gonna have to check into it though, seems like I've heard such good stuff about it. it's so darned expensive. I'd have to buy a big bottle concentrated. And I've tried mixing my neem oil I buy for making soaps etc... with water, it doesn't work, LOL and is too strong, even when mixing the slightest amount with tons of water. it damages the leaves. need to stick to the stuff that's already made for plants.
hey now! there's a thought of driving off your worst enemies. "What's that horrid smell". LOL
Well you guys just turned me off on the neem since I dont need anything stinking up my house...the breezeway is hooked to the house and we travel between the garage and house through this area...I think Ive asked this before but does anybody have a name of a systemic that doesnt have fertilizer in it?..Ive got the Bayer and I dont want to give them feed when im trying to get them to go dormant....I saw the stuff on ebay but somebody piped in and told me they thought it was something taht may harm me if used...any thoughts out there?...Judy
Judy, the stuff I think you are referring to is Disulfoton. It is sold on ebay as Hi-Yield Di-Syston. If you are using the Bayer Rose systemic with fertilizer, you are already using Disulfoton. That Bayer product has the same active ingredient in it as does the Hi-Yield Di-Syston. The % is just different, the Bayer having 1% and the Hi-Yield has 2%.
I know of no other systemic granules that kill spider mites. If anyone else does, please tell us!! If you look at the labels of all of them that are sold and there are tons under different names, they all have Disulfoton. Just the % of it in them changes.
I believe Bonide is one sold for houseplants and it has 1% Disulfoton in it. Lay people can only buy products with 2% or less of Disulfoton for our safety. I think products go up as high as 15% but their use is restricted to professionals.
Here is a list of products that have disulfoton in it.
www.epa.gov/oppfead1/endanger/effects/disulf-attc4.pdf
As to its safety:
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/dienochlor-glyphosate/disulfoton-ext.html
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/insect-mite/ddt-famphur/disulfoton/index.html
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts65.html
And here is a list of Bayer products and the insecticide that is in them and what they are effective against
:
http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/2000/8-11-2000/newproducts.html
http://www.bayeradvanced.com/garden/master-gardener/active-ingredients.cfm
I edited my entry for I just found out registration for Hi-yield systemic insecticide granules was cancelled in February so it is illegal to sell it anymore. Also I just learned that PAN has classified Disulfoton 2% as a PAN Bad Actor, which then makes it either Extremely Toxic or Highly Toxic!! Everyone needs to make up their own mind whether to use it or not. Mites are bad but not worth getting sick over.
This message was edited Aug 29, 2006 10:54 PM
I prefer Neem oil to lots of things. The only draw back is you have to get the entire leaf surface to get all the buggies. If you do not like the smell, why not try another Horticultural Oil?
Here is a good article of those available:
http://doityourself.com/fertilizer/horticulturaloil.htm
Kell, thanks for the links...and yes this is what i was concerned about...my area that I have all the plants in is not real big..just lots of plants in there..this means alot of this chemical being used...I dont want to grow another head...lolol...Judy