First 2005 pink seedling

Woodsville, NH(Zone 4a)

This has been a very bad year with all the rain we've had. The seedlings are way behind and I hope there will be time before frost to see them all flower.
The flowers on the right are a Meadow Rose x MM cross.
The daddy MM is on the left in the background.
Unfortunately this seedling will be composted as it shows no better traits than either parent.

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Woodsville, NH(Zone 4a)

This is another seedling from the same seed pod.
Completely different shape, color and size from it's sister.
Another one heading to the compost as the only thing that stands out is the long tendrils.

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Angleton, TX(Zone 9a)

These are decisions that have to be made by serious hybridizers. Is this your second year to evaluate them? I sure love those long tendrils on that second one and was wondering if it is the same as it was last year.

Tellico Plains, TN(Zone 7b)

Sorry for you Terry ;-(

It's so hard to wait all that time , I hope you get a good one yet ;-)

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

OOOOOOh, that 'c' word still makes me cringe. They are both so beautiful but I know you can't keep them all. I've got to do some 'c ing' too.

Muskegon, MI(Zone 5a)

Oh please dont send it to the compost pile..send it to me...I cant even send a mower mistake to the compost..lol.....not sure when you try to hybridize what it takes to pass ...this one looks great to me..does it sound like Im not picky yet?....lol..Judy

Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

Is there anything genetically wrong with the "trash brug"? Or is it just the fact that the other is more appealling
and you don't have room for both...From what i can see (if the coloration of my monitor is correct) they are both brugs of spectacular color. Before you do trash it offer it up to us poor slobs whose idea of a pink is Blush. I understand though your reasoning as a hybridizer....i would love a cutting if you do decide to give it up for postage

Granbury, TX(Zone 8a)

Yep I second that. Please offer up some cuttings for postage before the big "C" Day. Tanarae

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

I concur. I would be glad to pay for postage to get some cuttings.

Brookhaven, PA(Zone 6b)

wouldn't it be nice to use to make longer tendrils?

Although, much longer than that, what would that do??

It is a pretty brug Terry!

Springfield, OH(Zone 5b)

Yup.. Me too.. but it's a lot more work to package up a bunch of cuttings and mail them than it is to just drag it to the compost bin

Woodsville, NH(Zone 4a)

Frannie this is the first year for them. I started the seeds in January of this year. If they don't show something the first year that will add something positive to the US gene pool or they look similar to whats already out there then they have to go. Sometimes it's really hard when you have a pretty flower.
Xeris no there is nothing wrong with them genetically. The parents both have excellant genes. They just show nothing better than either parent and the second seedling looks too similar to so many others that are out there.
I'd like nothing better than to share them rather than compost but I learned a long time ago by experienced hybridizers that culls should be composted as sharing them only adds to the already confused Brug world that already has so many lookalikes and un named Brugs with no genetic backgrounds.
There are so many pinks out there now that very soon it will be hard if not impossible to tell them apart. I don't want to add to that.
Hope you all understand why they must be composted.

(Mary) Poway, CA(Zone 10a)

Hard decision, but from all I've heard and read it's the right way to do it. When I used to breed dogs we would think along the lines of breeding the best to the best, knowing the genetic background before breeding, and only saving the best of the cross for future breeding. No compost pile with dogs, LOL, but it was off to the Vet for an attitude adjustment.... so to speak.

I no longer breed dogs, and never will unless the overpopulation problem goes away, which is unlikely. Sure miss puppies though. Glad I can "breed" Brugs and not worry about those Vet bills. The fertilizers and wanting every additive out there may break the bank though. LOL

Mary

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