Texas native ID please, a vine and a shrub

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

This first one is a vine, not a morning glory, grows flat on the ground, thicker than average leaves and stems.

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Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Buds, kind of out of focus, I'm a terrible picture taker.

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Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Here is the shrub, it's not more than two years old I don't think, it has small white flowers, no fragrance that I could detect and berries that go from bright red to purple/black.

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Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Same shrub, it was early in the morning and it's always foggy/hazy here.

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Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

One more of the shrub, BTW, it's about 6 ft tall and wide. Here is a flower.

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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Calalily, the vine looks like Wild Potato, Ipomea pandurata, It looks just like the picture I have, but I have never seen the plant, it matches the leaves too.
It says that it grows from a large tuberous root, often weighing up to 20 pounds.
The shrub I totally don't know, but it is very pretty. Josephine.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

I never would have guessed it was in the ipomoea family, but now that you mention it, the leaves look a bit like ipomoea.
My neighbor who is into natives didn't know what the shrub was either. He has one that is about 18 inches tall that just came up. There is a big bush across the resaca, I think that's where the seeds came from, the birds ate the berries and dropped the seeds all around!

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Well, it's not the potato vine, the staymens are too long. they stick out of the flower, are airy and wiggle in the wind. The flower is quarter to half dollar size with a tube behind it, sort of reminds me of a 4 o'clock and the leaves are small and thick and not shiny. Here is a link to the ipomoea pandurata http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=IPPA
I'll search some more.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Well, the flowers on the link don't look like yours for sure, but the ones in the book
Wildflowers of Texas sure did, the leaf in the books picture is rounder and thicker.
Who knows, this is how we learn and never forget, right? I will be curious to see what it is.
Josephine.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

I've been searching the websites for native TX vines, no luck so far. I should also add, this is a short vine, about 2ft long.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

The vine: Berlandier Trumpets (Acleisanthes obtusa)? It is an endemic native Texas plant that grows in your area ...
http://uvalde.tamu.edu/herbarium/acob.htm
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=13774&flora_id=1

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west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

That shrub...is that an extremely close-up shot? The second pic looks a bit like a deciduous holly (Ilex decidua "possumhaw") but that first shrub shot's got me confused...I've never seen it flower and have red berries at the same time (at least mine don't behave that way).

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Do the shrubs blooms small sort of like spearmint with the intensity of the fragrance becoming stronger in the evening? Are the blooms about one inch long and tubular in shape and the berries about 1/4 inch?

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Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

The blooms are not fragrant that I've noticed, and the flowers are small, about 1/4 inch wide. It flowers and has berries all year round as long as we don't get a frost.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Okay, then it is not what I thought it might be .. I'll keep looking for it.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

I will try to remember to take a better picture this evening. I'll see if I can take a camera from work, we have good cameras, lol.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

I found out what the shrub/small tree is. It is fiddlewood. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/nativeshrubs/citharexylumberland.htm
It is not in the database, I will try to add it later. The photo is on my computer at work.
I was at a new nursery yesterday and they had it growing in pots for sale.

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Thanks for posting the ID. I have never heard of this one before.

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

It's a neat little tree and is very drought tolerant.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Calalily, that lovely little tree, Berlandie's Fiddlewood, Citharexylum berlandieri,
is a Texas endemic, and it is on Dave's plant files, but has no details or pictures,
would you mind putting in the pictures and some if the details in, so others can see it? We would greatly appreciate it. Here is the link. Josephine.

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/113133/index.html

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

OK, I will try to get to it tomorrow. DD was sick and kept me up half the night, my brain is not working good right now!

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Sorry about your daughter, anytimre you can get to it wiil be great.

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

Susie, could you get me a start of that vine - that's really pretty!

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

Jo, I will try again this year. I haven't been successful so far and it didn't make any seeds that I could find. It's pretty isn't it?

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

Susie, when something refuses to root by cutting or soil layering, it's time to get out the Hormodin and some rockwool! Leave the limb you wish to root attached to the mother vine. Scrape the bark (about a half inch vertically, all around the vine, just below and above a leaf node), on the vine you wish to root, dust with Hormodin, surround it with damp rockwool, wrap in saran wrap and secure all with twist ties. Keep an eye on it, and when it roots, you will be able to see the roots thru the saran wrap. This method takes a little longer, but it sure beats 'never' rooting - give it a shot and keep us posted!

Deep South Coastal, TX(Zone 10a)

I will give it a try, it will probably be the weekend before I get a chance.

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