Hoya pachyclada?

Rockledge, FL(Zone 9b)

This hoya has no label so I am going by memory. First time blooming for me.

Sylvia

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Knoxville, TN

Hey Sylvia!
I think you may have H. subquintuplinervis at a quick glance of your photo. It is similar to H. pachyclada. The difference is mostly in the shape of the leaf. (H. subquintuplinervis is much rounder than H. pachyclada)
I could be wrong, but, that would be my best guess.
It sure is a beautiful picture and looks to be a lovely plant as well!

Mesa, AZ(Zone 9a)

Sylvia it is very pretty, whichever one it is. This article may help you. It's from The Hoyan:

Pachyclada vs subquintuplinervis

If you have The Hoyan, vol. 19, #3, turn to page 69. There you can see the difference between two look alike, Hoya pachyclada and Hoya subquintuplinervis.

As you can see, neither of them have pinnate leaf veins.

Definition of pinnate:

1) Pinnate leaves: Compound leaves with leaflets arranged on both sides of a common leaf stalk, along its entire length.
2) Pinate veined leaves: Entire leaves, with veins spreading outward along both sides of the midrib, along its entire length, ala the individual segments of a feather.

Tri-nerved and quinquenerved leaves (which both Hoya pachyclada and Hoya subquintuplinervis have): All main nerves originating at the base of the leaves, extending upward towards the leaf apex, sometimes, but not always, reaching the apex. Sometimes referred to as "palmate veins."

Both have leaves with a more or less suede-like texture.
Both have tri-nerved or quinquenerved leaf veins. Neither have pinnate veins.
Both are being sold by US sellers as Hoya pachyclayda, while Hoya pottsii is being sold as Hoya subquintuplinervis.

Hoya pachylada makes a lovely cascading basket plant.
Hoya subquintuplinervis makes a better pot plant sitting on a table, at least when small. When well grown its stalks can be up to a half inch in diameter; however under extreme humidity its internodes will elongate and come in half that size or less.

Hoya pachyclada's sepals do not overlap at their bases.
Hoya subquintuplinervis sepals do overlap at their bases.

Hoya pachyclada leaves are oblong-obovate in shape.
Hoya subquintuplinervis leaves are round or almost round.

Hoya pachyclada follicles are about an inch long by about a half inch in diameter and rounded at both ends --- look like those little gherkin pickles, sans the prickles.
Hoya subquintuplinervis follicles are twice longer by about a 1/4 inch in diameter and they are pointed at both ends.

Mesa, AZ(Zone 9a)

This picture is also courtsey of Christine Burton, it makes the difference between the two clearer.


Agape,
Awanda

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Hey Sylvia...beautiful flower!!!

Rockledge, FL(Zone 9b)

I went and did my homework after reading your posts and this is what I found.

I have oblong leaves on the hoya and the sepals do not overlap.
I have enclosed 2 pictures to explain what I am saying.

What do you think?
Thanks for your help,
Sylvia

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Rockledge, FL(Zone 9b)

Another picture.

Thanks,
Sylvia

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Sylvia: You can go here http://www.bigislandgrowers.com/AHcomp/AHpach1.php, put up your flower pics and compare side by side....instructions at the bottom of the Photo Compendium on the side bar.

Carol

SW, WI(Zone 4b)

That 'compare' feature is *fabulous*, IMHO!

Whomever (ahem!) thought of that had a brilliant idea!!

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Wasn't ME!!! Brain way too small....whole thing is DH's idea and creation.

San Francisco, CA

Thanks, Awanda, I have a plant I bought as H. pachyclada, and I've allways been suspicious it was something else. Apparently it is subquintuplinervis! I've read that pachycladas leaves are up to 1/4" thick. My subquintuplinervis is way thinner. Is that allways the case?

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

I think it is environmental and nutritional. My two plants are the same thickness...

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