Will these cuttings survive?

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

I'm brand new to brugs. My aunt got too many cuttings from a friend so she gave me a few. I know next to nothing about brugs. I stuck the cuttings in a vase of water. See pic. There's suppose to be two yellows, one white, and one pink.

Will they live?
Should I use sand instead of just water?
Should I change the water everyday?
How long will it take for roots to form?
Do they like shades or sun?

Anything else I need to know? Thanks for your help.

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Worden, IL(Zone 6a)

I am bringing this back to the top. I would love to know the answer to this also.

Cindy

(Mary) Poway, CA(Zone 10a)

I've had success using the bubbler method but lots of people just stick them in dirt or sand this time of year and they do fine. Some root more easily than others.
Mary

Gulfport, MS(Zone 8a)

Personally, i'd take off all the leaves and buds except for the very top ones and then stick the cuttings into potting soil. Water in and then stick in a shady area until the perk up.
In the summer i have much more luck with soil than i do water, they seem to rot pretty quick in water.

Crumpler, WV

Q, do like MSJen said. Another thing I have found out too when the cuttings are so limp like yours, is to submerge the entire cutting in cool water for a few hours. They seem to recover a little faster if you do this.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

WELCOME to Dave's and WELCOME to the Brug Forum Quyen!!!

How lucky you are! Were these out of water for awhile or placed in direct sun? Maybe you need to recut the bottoms to a new cut so they may drink better. You are in Orange County so I bet it is hot there. I often root mine inside in the cooler temperatures during summer. It is easier on them I think when they have no roots. Before you put in soil I think you need to get them a bit better hydrated like David suggests. After you do as he says, I might let them dry off while their freshly cut bottoms are in water.

If they are still somewhat limp. you may want to make a mini greenhouse inside your cool house out of the sun, in shade. Take a large clear plastic bag, rinse it with water. Shake the excess out so just damp, then place the brug cuttings in it while they are in their cups of water. Close the top well. When they have perked up I would switch the cup of water to a fast draining soil and again put them in the beaded not wet bag and close it. If you leave it inside the house while it roots, it won't cook in the bag when it is so hot.


They may take up to a month to get a good root system in the dirt. In Orange County they will probably want to be in morning sun and afternoon shade. They should grow into nice trees for you in Zone 10 so give them plenty of room!!!

GOOD LUCK!!!! And let us know how they are doing!!!

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

I'm not sure how long these were cut before I got them. They were in a bucket of water but inside a hot car for a long time. Some of the dropped leaves were starting to stink when I got it. I did remove the bottom leaves before sticking them in water. I think two of them are looking good because the younger leaves look alive and not wilted. The other two (both yellow) are droopy...no sign of life. However, all of them seem to have little whitish things growing from the bumps on the stem (the part that was in the water). That's a good sign, right?

Will do a fresh cut with razor and soak them in water right now. Better late than never.

I have potting soil, cactus soil, peat moss, and sand on hand. Should I just use potting soil after the soaking?

Thank you all for the help and the welcome. I am glad I found DG when I started to grow things again (my green thumb turned brown for a few years when my children were small.....hee hee). It's been so much fun reading about other people's gardens and learning from their experience.

Judsonia, AR(Zone 7b)

Will they live? They should live for you,
Should I use sand instead of just water? I use potting soil and keep the soil moist.
Should I change the water everyday? I would change the water daily if your going to root them this way, I have a green house and have been rooting some in water, some in soil, and the heat has caused rot on the ones that have been in water, and the ones in soil are now forming tiny roots, they will wilt for a while, I do cut off all the leaves but the tiny ones on the very top of the end cutting.
How long will it take for roots to form? This all depends on your situations Mine usually a couple weeks to 3 to 4 depending on the brug too which type it is.
Do they like shades or sun? Some like shade, some like sun, I wouldn't root any in direct sunlight or set any of them in direct l00% full sun all day, sunin themorn shade in the afternoon or visa versa is really sufficient I would think. It's good enough for mine. full sun is harder on them here.

If your going to root in water this time of year, I'd root in shade for sure, or in the house whre it's cooler.

Personally myself, I don't think i'll be rooting any of them in water any more, I always get way too much rot on them, even if I do change the water, and have so much better luck rooting in potting soil, and keep ing the soil moist, those cuttings should be fine.

Good luck with them, do you know their names?

kathy

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

We are glad you found us too Quyen. The white bumps are good! The start of roots. You may end up cutting off the tops if they got fried. But the lower part may be still good. If the top goes south, cut it off before it rots the bottom!

Good luck!

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

kathy ann, I don't know any names. I barely knew that brugs exist when my aunt gave me these. My aunt and her friend (the one who has the brug trees) only know the colors...no names. They're from the "old country". LOL.

I still have them in water because I haven't found a good container to put them in, yet. They're looking good, though. It's been so hot in the last few days that they were better off outside, in the shade and breeze, instead of in the stuffy house. If and when they bloom, I'll post pictures to get help identifying them.

Judsonia, AR(Zone 7b)

Hey, No named ones are just as beautiful , Glad their doing good for you. I sure wish I could get cuttings to root in water, but i'm not good at refreshing the water daily which may be why I get alot of rott.

kathy

Hiouchi, CA(Zone 8b)

Kathy
use a larger vessel for the water, less water changes, i use a 3 gal bucket
it has to be in the shade & cool like Quyen is doing
Quyen if they don't make it, i have some already rooted & ready to pot up
& i'm just around the corner from you

Dick

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Wow, thanks for the offer, Dick. Yes, you are indeed just around the corner.

I did see little roots coming from the cut edges so I think I'm making progress. How long does it take from the time that they have enough roots to pot up to the time that I'd actually get some flowers?

Judsonia, AR(Zone 7b)

Thanks Dick, I'll try that next time.

kathy

Springfield, OH(Zone 5b)

I think you should pot them up now.. if you wait until the roots form they can be twitchy when you pot them up. GO!! GET DIRT!! :) Congrats

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

UPDATE

I put them all in the same pot at the beginning of August. They are looking good now with new leaves. There is one with out any leaf but I can see a green color on the twig, so I still have hope. I think it's time I let each have its own pot. What size pot should I start with. Would a 1 gal. be too small? They don't seem to be growing very fast... yet.

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Tellico Plains, TN(Zone 7b)

Quyen, They look fine to me.

The cuttings are growing a root system now , which they need to be able to produce foliage.

Just keep them barely damp, that's all they need because there is no foliage to support yet.

I would feed them lightly once a week , then when they really start growing you can pot them up.

Be cautious not to over water, root rot kills more brugs than anything else.

Good Luck,
Shirley

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Looking good. I would use gallon size pots. Once the pots fill up with roots, you should be able to pot up to a very large pot or put them in the ground. Looks like you will have some nice blooms next year.

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Thanks for the warning about root rot, Shirley. I've been keeping the soil moist but haven't fed them with anything yet. I guess I can give them something for roots and foliage.

Brugie, I haven't decided where to put these yet so I will have to get large pots for them in the mean time. Will they really bloom next year? Hard for me to imagine because they are just sticks in the ground right now. My front yard would be a good sunny place but it needs a lot of work right now :-(

Tellico Plains, TN(Zone 7b)

looks like you are in brug-growing heaven there.
Your yard will look and smell fantastic next year.

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Update:

Hard to believe that those sorry looking twigs are doing so well. Here they are, with leaves and in their own pots.

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Tellico Plains, TN(Zone 7b)

Yahhhhhh Baby !

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Indiantown, FL

This thread reminded me of a angel trumpet 911 call. Everyone coaxing you along in getting these babies rooted and growing.
Your plants look great, looks like you have several different types and you recieved some excellent advice.
Happy Growing,
Connie

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Thanks for the help and encouragement, everyone. It's rather ironic to feel that I've accomplished something when, in actuality, the plants have done all the work themselves. They were the ones who were severed from their life support and yet they still were able to survive. Nature is so wonderously amazing!

Laurens, SC(Zone 8a)

I didn't know you were into Brugs! Well, next year you will see, they grow very quickly once they get started!! Bonnie

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Well, I got my first and only bloom on one of the five brugs that I rooted. Yeah! It's peach colored and smells nice but not strong.

I have another that's producing lots of buds but not blooming yet. It went dry last week for some reason (I don't know why since I water all of them at the same time) and lost a whole bunch of leaves after I watered it. Most of the flower buds stayed, though.

edited for spelling :-b

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Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Here's a closer look. The bloom is about 9 inches across (from tip to tip).

The whole plant is so funny looking because it's only about 18 inches tall but 3 feet wide and sitting in a 12 inch pot.

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Adrian, MI(Zone 5b)

Just wait 'till next year!! What I wouldn't give to be in your zone!!
Good luck!!
Bonnie

Corte Madera, CA

woo-hoo! i love your updates. wow, oh, wow. from twigs to beauty and lush foliage.

Gardiner, ME(Zone 5a)

Quyen,
Beautiful blooms,Congratulations !

Bonnie I know what you mean ...sigh,
Brigitte

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Nice orange color. Right now, I wouldn't care what size the plant was if I could have blooms. LOL!

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 4a)

That's very pretty, Quyen! Way to go girl!
:) Donna

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Thanks, everyone. I feel like a proud mommy.

Actually, the color on the bloom has deepened to an orange and the scent is quite intense. I still can't figure out what it reminds me of, though.

My cream colored ones have also bloomed. The scent is not as intense as the orange one and it reminds me of baby powder and vanilla.

Any chance that the fragrance is stronger at night?



Sunset Beach, NC(Zone 8a)

I'm glad this thread showed up again. It was fun to read the whole thing and watch Quyen take them from on the way out to having blooms! That's great! Now you'll just want more!
Barbara

Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Here they are again, almost a year later. I think they're ready for larger pots.
Still don't have any names to go with the flowers, though.

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Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

The one with very velvety leaves turned out to be a white double.

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Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

Not too many blooms and the scent is light.

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Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

The yellow ones had the most blooms and the most intense fragrance.

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Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

My favorite out of the whole lot has to be the pink ones.

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Orange, CA(Zone 10b)

The scent is just enough to intrigue and the color is a happy, innocent pink.

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