ok folks..this should be good for a laugh if nothing else :)

Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

in wishing I could ID my "pinkie"...I looked at the info on the brug org site. After reading the characteristics of any one of them (say Pink Beauty)...I realized that I didnt know enough to make that info useful. So I read the ID articles and realized that even with pictures...I still didnt know enough to make the info useful. Which leads me to try to describe my flower..even if I didnt know the name..what would be the characteristics.

1) it doesnt have hairy leaves (my candida double cutting is very hairy)

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

They talk about something...the Pod ?..splitting in more than one piece?

I assume that was where the bloom actually comes out but one piece? I would say mine has 3.

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

Some brug blooms have a space between something and something else. I would assume this means deep in the "pod" and I would assume that mine does NOT have the space ?

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

And some things can be glued together while others are not all glued.

I think I may be coming unglued !!!

Is they or aint they?

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Whatever it is, I have one too!...or more. The very thin 'neck'(?) where it goes into the calyx sort of at the tippytop....Pink fading up the neck . HUH?

Hattiesburg, MS(Zone 8a)

This is pink beauty. Notice how the calyx (the green thing at top of tube) is very tight and low on the top of the corolla (tube/trumpet)

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

not exactly...I think I would have to see two brugs with differences...I have a couple blooming this morning...I will go out and look at them....

I printed out the sanders ID chart....when they talk about # of calyx "teeth"..what exactly does that mean...

Zion, IL(Zone 5a)

I cropped one of your flowers and one of Bward's for comparison.

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

Thank you sooo much...That enlightens me as to the "gap or space" issue on the sanders ID chart.

You dont have to peel back the calyx (pod) to see, if the flower hangs from the calyx (as opposed to the calyx opening laying on the blossom) then there is a "space or gap".

In reference to teeth of the calyx. I went out and looked at the few I have blooming. All of them...including the one I am trying to ID ..have the calyx opening spliting into about 3 parts except for one (Kyles Pink) which just seems to have "an opening".

#1 Whiskers first day -has 2 or more "teeth" though you cant see them all in this photo..

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

Cypress Gardens...aka..bug magnet...also

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

now Kyles Pink (in spite of flooding rains and mud) seems to NOT have "teeth" but only an "opening" for the bloom/corolla

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Springfield, OH(Zone 5b)

A quick flower part primer.. kinda long so if you aren't interested please skip. :)

The term Pod is referring to the seed pod. The green part on the base of the flower is the calyx. The colored part of the flower is the corolla. the little stem that connects the flower to the plant is called the pedicle.

Inside the flower are the reproductive parts. The longer center female part is called the pistil. It is made up of three sections.. The Ovule, which is at the base and eventually becomes the seed pod if fertilized. The Style, which is the long skinny part. And the Stigma which is the sticky knob on the end that recieves the pollen. It is usually surrounded by several shorter boy parts that contain the pollen... these are the stamens. They are made up of two parts. The anther which holds the pollen and the filament which are long skinny things that hold the anthers up.

ok..I'm done.. not so long afterall...:D

Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

that wasnt even painful....LOL

now can you tell me the difference between anthers that are free or connivent?

Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

okay..I found CallaLily's wonderful thread on brug parts in Classic Threads...can anyone tell me how to differenciate between Pink Favorite and Pink Insignis. My pink will bloom again in a few weeks and I want to be armed and ready !

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

I might be able to tell you if it is or isn't Pink Favorite, but I don't have Pink Insignis...good luck!!!

Ozark, AL(Zone 8b)

Insig pink has very short sharp corolla teeth, or tendrils, compared to pink favorites, which are quite long.

Really, with soooo many pinks on the market today, it's really hard to determine what it might be, although you sure are going about it in a good way, since you are learning stuff you might have put off for years!

Look into shape differences too, as in (spelling?) savoleans, versicolor, Aurea, etc. That might help quite a bit.

Here is insig pink.

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Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

thank you...I got this one from Brugie who we will all agree knows her stuff so it has to be one of the ones that she has or had last fall. I just want to rule out it being Pink Beauty, Pink Favorite or Insignis. If we cant make a "for sure" ID, it will just be my sweet "Pinkie" and thats okay but I hate to deny her a name if she has one ! :)

Ozark, AL(Zone 8b)

Here is Pink Beauty, on the right. (Rosabelle on the left). I may have pics of Pink Favorite too, but since it's not a favorite of mine, I know I won't have many. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I have blooms on that one as we speak...
It sounds like you just might find her name, since she is from a known source of named plants. Good luck!

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Ozark, AL(Zone 8b)

Pink Favorite;

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Carmel, NY(Zone 6b)

Hey, this is a great thread! Great definitions, Jazz - I been sooooo confused. I'm hoping to have some flowers this year - my first year ever for brugs!

Beautiful Kyle's Pink! I'm sad to say my "stick" didn't make it. Nor did so many of them. Thank heavens for JRush - she gave me a couple of rooted ones which I seem to be much better at! And my Rosamond seeds are taking off like crazy, too! Can you tell I'm excited???

And now, IF I get flowers, I know how "brug speak"!

Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)


Thank you for the pics..I should have a pink bloom in a couple of days so I can compare to your photos directly instead of looking at my pics of her.

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

lagata, your PF is very pretty, does she have six tendrils?? The thing I like best about PF is that she is dependable, she was the first with buds, of the brugs I wintered in the ground, and she's never stopped putting on buds, and she's nice and bushy and not so tall (PB and RD are almost 10 feet with zillions of Ys, no buds yet), but, thus far, PF's blooms are not long lasting in this heat - hey, who could blame her, and I'm hoping it's because this is her first flush, of about 10 blossoms and she is absolutely covered with new buds, and the only one I've had, in my very first year, that's ever been absolutely covered in buds...

Springfield, OH(Zone 5b)

Quoting:
now can you tell me the difference between anthers that are free or connivent?


Yes I can.. It means it is loose (free) and is probably up to no good or planning to cause trouble (connivent). See "nekid" for further reference"



Ok.. I really don't know

Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

I think I may have figured it out...the anther (which holds the pollen) can be free (being held out away from the pistol) or connivent "glued" sticking right against the pistol ?

Pickens, SC(Zone 7a)

okay..we are approaching another bloom...it has more than 1 calyx tooth and a space between the calyx and corolla.

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