My cutting has been in water, which I change every few days, for over two weeks and no roots yet. What do I do?
Cutting/rooting question
If I had the cutting here, if it was large enough and promising, I'd put some rooting hormone on it and put it in some fresh dirt, water it and put it in the shade. Someone might come along with a different solution that might be more appropriate...Good Luck, what ever you do!!!
I have the rooting hormone about 2' away from the cutting and I'm ready. I'll wait overnight and see what others say but will probably do it as you describe. I have Miracle Gro soil also! How big of a pot for a 5" cutting?
Thanks so much!
Arlene
Pirl, that's good advice Sherry gives. I've done that and it seemed to help stimulate the rooting process. Another thing I've tried is taking the cutting and cutting it again to help aide in the process of rooting. I've done this and sure enough, I started seeing white nubbies developing and it just continues to produce roots as long as I keep it there.
Good luck and let us see pics of it when you get it going. Remember, patience is the key to success with Brugs lol...I say that because they have tested mine numerous times LOL!!!
Hugs
Julie
Pirl,
Wet the soil FIRST , make a hole in the wet soil a little large for the cutting.
I use a pencil for this and just move it in a circular motion to make the hole in the damp soil bigger.
THEN dip the moistened cutting in the rooting powder, tap off excess and carefully place in the hole you made for it.
Press soil around the cutting and put it in a bright spot.
Do NOT water after this until the soil is pretty dry.to avoid washing the hormone powder down into the soil away from the cutting.
The powder has anti bacterial properties also.
Only cut some off the bottom if there is rot!
Some brugs send roots directly out the bottom of the cutting.
(This is is the way I have always done it.)
I've got lots of cuttings to start this week, Scoot, and I'll tweak my routine exactly as you describe, tho I will admit that, at this time of the year, I've stuck them in dirt without doing anything and they root, pronto pup, (((ONLY))) if it's one I don't care about, lol. If it's special, all bets are off...
Yup , this is growing season but it's up to pirl which way she/he wants to go with the cutting.
This time of year , like you said , anything I poke in the ground roots all by itself.
Brug cuttings of one kind get stuck in a big community pot so they can chat while growing new feet ..... lol
I am not a big fan of rooting hormone but I always have some around if I should want to use some.
This message was edited Jun 18, 2005 9:58 PM
Wow! So many responses and all so quickly, as I slept!
Thanks to one and all!
Thank goodness my bottom is not rotting - DH assured me my bottom is just fine!
I'll wet the soil, make a hole by wiggling my Sharpie around, dip in hormone powder and wait for signs of dryness before I water again. I'll put it in a bright spot - have a choice of southwest or northwest - please let me know. Also, what size pot. I know these brugs get big but should I start it off in a 6" pot? Soil seems to dry too fast in the smaller pots.
Thank you and Happy Father's Day to the men and to the women who made it all possible!
Arlene*
*I'll send pictures for Michael of Orange City, FL who sent it to me and for all who helped me. I do appreciate it.
I just pulled another one out of the stock tank that's got a pump recirculating the water.
This one I stuck through a piece of bubblewrap to float it. It was pretty green but I pulled it out from under the pump handle shelf yesterday and voila. The water being circulated and fairly cool has produced nubs in just a couple of days. This is the 2nd one I tried in the tank.
Nubs I do have - many of them. Arlene
There ya go
you're all set
stick it in soil and it will be rooted in no time
What size pot? Please tell me. I don't want to put it in something too small or too large! Thanks.
Ahhhhhhh Pirl, if you have nubbies and many of them CC is right!!! Stick it into some dirt and you don't even need to use rooting hormone if you don't want to. You can do with nubbies the same as you can do with roots :-)
The pot size depends on the cutting and how big it is. If you can take a pic of it, it would be easier to be able to tell what size or type cutting it is to know the size of pot.
I'm sure there will be someone to come along and help even more in your plea for help and advice.
The method of re-cutting the cutting again (this is a cutting sent via mail) worked for me! And guess what???.....no bottom rot was there either and it worked too hehehe, guess what ever works best for you. Best of luck to you Pirl :0)
Hugs
Julie
Hi Julie,
I never would have believed I'd be so involved with this!
Just took two photos and now have to see what I took and get back to you with the best of the two. Hope the nubbies came out well!
Arlene
Fuzzy but you can see the size now, and the nubbies!
pirl you are right on the money!!! As soon as they get to this stage I pot them and in a week to 10 days there'll be white root tips at the drainage holes and I move them up to a bigger pot. Except the first one I did in the stock tank I stuck it right into a tall 5 gal pot.
Just don't put them in sun after potting. They still don't have roots and they'll wilt or fry.
That looks perfect to put in dirt. It looks to be about 5 inches, so I would use a 4 inch pot but stick it way down so it forms roots the full length it is forming nubbies. You have yourself a new plant. Congrats!!
Blaine, I looked and looked at your pic trying to figure it out what was going on in it. LOL. Took me awhile. Still do not know where those pink legs come in. LOL But it sure works.
Okay - I'll do it today! THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR HELP.
I'll keep the post open so I can put up photos of the progress.
Blaine has a pet octopus , a pink one !
Blaine, try a piece of styro board for floating your cuttings.
I like to root my cuttings in those clear plastic dixie cups. They dont dry out too quick because I keep them in a shaded area. This way I can see the roots growing :)
charlotte
Great idea, Charlotteda! Now to search for some. Could I use a small one just until I see roots and then put it in a pot?
(Please, God, make her say, "Yes"!)
hahaha!
I wanted to take a pic and propped on top of my dolly. :)
What I found strange was on this one and the PC which is the first I tried in here, the stems of both curled up like that. I put them in deep and figure these girls are going to have the mother-of-all-rootballs.
I'd say, how clever you are, cool
Pirl,
I am so glad I found this thread! I am new to Brugs and Dats, and I am interested in starting new ones from cuttings (my neighbor is jealous and I figure I would share the wealth!) The only thing, as I mentioned before, is that I am totally new to Brugs and Dats, and have a question! This thread has already answered the rooting question, but what do I try to root? Are Brugs propegated from hardwood or softwood cuttings? If the answer is hardwood, I hope mine grow fast enough to actually get some hardwood cuttings from them. You see, I ordered my collection from Royal Dutch gardens, and I think I may have waited too long to order them. They are showing vigorous growth, but not as vigorous as I had hoped for. To be honest, I really don't think they are going to bloom this year! :( Also, do Brugs and Dats like full sun or are they partial to some shade? Please help!
kc - I'm also brand new to datura and brug's, although I do have one I whack back each spring, from years ago.
Hope someone answers your questions because I'm curious, too!
Mine are in semi shade and are doing fine. They get very early morning sun and late afternoon sun but shade during the hot hours. The datura is in full, beautiful bloom now.
My old Brug didn't bloom until the third year. The folks in warmer climates probably get faster bloom. I had to cut mine back hard because it would have been too huge to bring inside for the winter.
pirl,
Your dat is gorgeous! Is that the double lavender? If so, I have the same one, it came as an added bonus in the collection of "Angel Trumpets" I ordered from Royal Dutch. I'll need to take some pics and post them here. The catalog stated that the collection was "Datura", but only the double lavender looks like a dat, the other three (pink, white and yellow) were very woody cuttings. I hope someone can help determine if they are dats or brugs! Pics soon to follow.
Dave
Post pics Dave. I bet you got 3 brugs and 1 dat from what you say. WELCOME to the brug world.
Beautiful datura, Pirl!
Dave, I bet Hibiscus could really steer you right as she lives in Ohio too. She grows beautiful brugs. Has a great collection. If she doesn't buzz by I will alert her for you. She will know where they grow best in Ohio, etc.
You can root a piece as small as a half inch. Woody are easier in that they do not rot as easily. But you can do both. If you have to cut yours for winter, I would try to save the Y so it flowers faster next year.
Don't cut your top off for your neighbor. It will set you way back. Only trim side growth till you have a good Y going and then you can take a piece off that but I would wait till after you have your first flush so you can really get a bountiful one. Let your neighbor come over and take whiffs in the interim. LOL
NOW I know what I did wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kell,
Here are the pics of my plants! This one is the "Pink" one:
Here's the Double Lav, dat:
Here's the White:
Here's the Yellow:
Kell,
I'm not sure if you could see what I mean by "woody stems" on the pink, white and yellow ones, but if you can, can you please help determine if they are brugs or dats?
Thanks for all your help! It is greatly appreciated!
Dave
My guess is: Brug, Brug, Dat, Brug. I feel like this is a test. Let's see what Kell says. Hope I passed!
LOL pirl! I am pretty sure the second pic is a dat; my guess would be: Brug/Dat/Brug/Brug. But who am I to deduce, I have no idea, since I am a newbie! LOL.
When your Dat sets seed, can you please save some for me just in case mine doesn't bloom this year? There's an easy way to collect Dat seeds:
Take an old clean pair of pantyhose, cut off the foot section and place it over the seed pod and secure with a piece of string or dental floss. When the seed pod pops, the seeds will be caught by the pantyhose!
Just in case you are willing to share your bounty! If so, my addy is listed in the addy exchange here on DG. Thank you far in advance! Edited to include: And I will absolutely pay for postage!
Dave
This message was edited Jul 20, 2005 12:40 PM
What a good reason to keep some pantyhose around the garden!
We used to use the legs, cut in strips, to hold up the tomatoes.
The Dbl. Lav. appears to be the only datura picture up there. You will like it.
Hi Dave. I am not sure about the first one, but I do not think there are any pink dats. And Shirley seems sure.
The last 2 sure look like brugs. I would feed them some Miracle Grow to get them a bit more green and give them a boost to get them going.
Now on the datura, I think but am not sure, that they do not like as much fertilizer as brugs do. I would even foliar spray those brugs for a fast pick me up.
Oh Pirl, so you cut off your tops? Some here will cut off the tops as winter approaches, but they root them and toss the roots.
I did it upside down: cut off the tops and threw them out and kept the roots. See, you just can't trust this blonde! When I bought them, years ago, (have since lost 2 of the 3), it took them 2 years to bloom in NY. Wouldn't it just be the same story all over again???
Thanks for your help and you're always welcome to visit our gardens under Forums: Garden Talk, Southold Historical, etc. and leave your comments so we can print everything out and save it with our mementos.