Help Concrete Backyard Tropicals (Sac, Cal Z9)

Sacramento, CA(Zone 9a)

Howdy to all you Dave's Garden Members. I love this website since I am a novice and everyone is so kind. My husband and I bought a house which has concrete instead of a yard. THis picture was taken before we bought the house. I am including this pic to demonstrate how much of the yard is concrete.
We are trying to put in a tropical garden and for now our plants include: 1 plumeria, lilies, Calla Lilies, Alocasia, Cannas, 2 passionvines, Dutchman's pipe, 2 bougainvillas, an underachieving gardenia, phlox and a brugmansia.

I would like to know if some of you have any of your plants or a majority of yourr plants on hardscape. If so, what have you planted and how do you deal with so much radiant heat?

I just started a water garden which might help a bit. We also put up a gazebo which helps with the heat. I PROMISE more pics later.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Maggienile,

If anything, I think I had more concrete than you have. I had it on the sides as well. Before we moved to Texas, we lived in the eastern foothills of San Jose for 22 years. When I first started, I used wooden half barrels. Later as the wooden barrels rotted, I replaced them with 24" and 30" fiberglass pots. Fiberglass doesn't rot and doesn't become brittle like plastic does.

I had about 12 varieties of citrus, a Laurus nobilis (for spagetti sauce), two dwarf banana trees ( Soon became clumps.), 2 Brugmansias, 2 bougainvillas, 7 miniature apple trees, a dwarf nectarine, and 2 dwarf figs, an Australian and a Tasmanian fern, plus an assortment of shrubs or trees that either died or outgrew their pots. On the east side of the house, I had a large number of Cymbidiums, and azaleas. In pots of varying sizes, I grew annuals for color, some Pelargoniums and geraniums, a number of different jasmine, hydrangeas, hibiscus, 2 Fairy Roses (a red and a pink).

The large pots were placed against the house or next to the retaining wall. I made a fountain using 3 half barrels and 3 liners. I placed the fountain in front of several tall potted plants, leaving enough room to get to the pots as needed. To soften the harsh pot sides I planted cascading annuals along the rim of the large pots. Two of my favorites, trailing nasturtiums and trailing lobelias self seeded every year. I also placed pots of varying sizes in front of the larger pots. The large potted plants in front of the retaining wall provided ehough shade that I could place some shade loving hydrangeas in my backyard. My sons were kind enough to set up a drip irrigation system on all my pots. The number of emitters and the gph rating of the emitters depended on the size of the pot. I really recommend you set up some sort of irrigation system or you'll be spending a lot of time out watering.

I hope you find this helpful.
Veronica

Sacramento, CA(Zone 9a)

BettyDee: Thanks for all of your info. I have posted some before and after pics in the Tropicals forum. I would love to get a citrus tree for the smell. My husband does not want them because they are messy. Do you know if there are dwarf kinds I could keep in a pot that have blooms but do not produce fruit?

All your suggestions were very helpful.

Homestead, FL(Zone 10b)

Hi Maggienile:

If you change your mind about the fruit, try an Improved Meyer Lemon. I have one growing in a pot and when it is in bloom, the scent is delicious! So far it has not been a messy plant.

Veronica

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Maggienile,

The Improved Meyer Lemon is one of my favorite citrus. California has a number of dwarf citrus tree growers. Most of the citrus I owned, while living in California, came from Four Winds Nursery in Fremont. Their rootstock is Flying Dragon Trifoliate which makes the grafted top a little hardier. Their trees are sold in many nurseries. You can also order on line.

The Meyer Lemon is smaller than most citrus so it makes a great container plant. It has a compact shape. If you like variegated plants, the dwarf Variegated Eureka Lemon is gorgeous. Its fruit is striped making it an interesting tree. It is faster growing than the Meyer. Kumquats are hardy and produce lots of wonderfully edible fruit. I never thought of citrus as messy. They are no worse than any other plant. Because they are evergreen, they do drop a leaf here and there. You could pull off any fruit that develop.

Veronica

Sacramento, CA(Zone 9a)

Betty Dee,.
Thanks for all the info. I think my husband -who used to live in florida - hated how messy the fruit was when it fell on the ground and the ants would swarm over it or the scent would bring out the fruit rats. Since ours will be in a pot and I can take care of any fruit that should not be a problem. My girlfriend to ld me to just get it as a pretty bush and when it produces fruit, get a surprised look on my face and exclaim, "oh, I did not know it was a fruit tree." This friend has been divorced 4 times so I do not think I will take her advice.

Sacramento, CA(Zone 9a)

Dear BettyDee & Delecie,
I just wanted you two to know that I bought a dwarf varigated Lemon tree from Home Depot. It is from the Four Winds Nursery in Fremont. They did not have the Eureka Lemon so I got this one. It is really small now but should grow quickly.
I just want the smell and the pretty leaves.

Homestead, FL(Zone 10b)

Hi Maggienile. Can you post a photograph of your new lemon tree? It'll be fun to see it now and the amount of new growth it'll have in 3 months or 6 months.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

What you got is a Eureka lemon. It's growth is the same. Sometimes, it's called Variegated Pink Lemon. You'll love it!! Yes, keep us posted.

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