which brugs came back this year from the ground

I'd like to hear from a few folks who get temps in the teens in the winter, if you've planted your brugs outside last spring and let them stay out there which ones did you plant, and how cold did your coldest night get.

My coldest night was I think l2 degrees,
and these two came back, I did not plant any others outside last spring in the ground, was too scared too.

their late coming back, didn't even show through the ground till may, and it got in the 90s in may here.


But i'm thinking of planting a few others in the ground and want to make sure they'll come back next spring, I guess it's sort of like starting over with them since they have to be cut back, so I guess I could just take cuttings of them to make sure.

First pic is insignus pink, the second is frosty pink. Good ol faithfuls,

here's frosty pink, it just started coming back a few weeks ago. I had forgotten about it, and planted a gardenia bush there next to it. guess I'll have to dig up that gardenia bush.

Gypsy Queen, KBS, SDW, HDW, Rosebelle, Rosamond, Valley Misty Pink, Dr. Seuss, Isabella, Species, Versi-Peach, Donna's Monster White & Pink Beauty (last). We went down to 13.

Bless you Kathy for starting this thread!! Info I need also.

Judy

Holy Cow violabird, All those came back for you!!!. I have such high hopes now, this is super fantastic, into the ground those brugs go. I won't have to over winter them, this is fantastic, you didn't get anycolder than me, which is really great, thanks.

what are these brugs? SDW, HDW, And donnas monster white, she sent me some cuttings too, what's the real name of it, I can't remember what it is?

This one doesn't have a tag. Thought it was a gonner.

and I took a closer look

Edited to say, Sherry, notice the copper strip around the base.

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look coming out of the hole in the bottom of the pot.

Snowbank, who had been mulched with about 18 inches of leaf mulch came back from the ground - very slowly, like yours with about the same temp. I've had better luck taking good 8 in stem cuttings in the fall that have become foot high plants by mid April, and many are blooming already. Because I have so many in the ground this year, I'll take many 2 ft cuttings, put a dozen in each of two bubbler tubs (have you been following those threads ?), and pot in March, or put inthe ground after Apr 15.They should all be blooming by mid June.
The ones in the ground will all be well cut back, and well mulched, but they will mostly have to take their chances.

This is a great thread I'm as excited as Kathy!!!

Judy

Hope someone else speaks up here for y'all.

Sorry I got lazy about the names; Shredded White and Hawaiian Double White AND I forgot Butterfly and Ambrosia!

Some of them I didn't want to come back, I cut one down to the ground early last fall, ran over it a few times with the lawnmower, didn't mulch it--and when I went to replant a brug there, I dug out the whole rootball and tossed it--a week later it sprouted!

While I like the no-fuss method of leaving them in the ground, I'm sticking with my 4-6ft cuttings in the bubbler where most are forming buds now. Like Brugie said, always take cuttings to be on the safe side.

I just gotta figure out how to kill the old roots :(

Quite a few already mentioned came back here, plus P&C, Maya, Ecuador pink, Rosa Traum, Gold Traum, Ms Anna, First day, Daybreak, HG, Lexy, Golfito, KBS, Solid Gold, Jean pasco, insig pink, Blush, Cool Blush, Janet Reno, Seuss, and Variegata. I too took cuttings (up to 6ft) for the bubble bucket to be safe, and didn't even chance it with a bunch that I may leave out this winter, considering how well all the others did.
I'm glad to know that when I'm old and moldy and can't haul them inside, that I will still get to enjoy them every year.

Anyone keeping track of who is the farthest north to have one come back?
Maybe I'll use brug beds to stage/hold my shredded leafs this fall and see what happens. I successfully overwintered roses in containers last fall buried in 3' pile of shredded leaf.

Every brug I wintered outside came back this spring. I put two sacks of mulch on each brug, which might or might not help, but it helps me in the spring because I don't have to add much mulch. Spring Peach, Versi Peach, two brugs, EP, two brugs, Tiara, 90-05, no name, only these numbers, Dr.S, CWD, Rosabelle, Isabelle, PB, RD, Pink Favorite, Becca Lynn x CG, Culebra, several unknowns, all except two will be removed this year and will be the first brugs of my neighbors. I live on the border of zone 7 and 8a.

Lagata and sherrylike you guys need to let us know what your coldest temps were ok. so far we've all been middle states, no northerners posted yet. this is great though, looks like I have my work cut out for me in planting brugs in the ground LOL

I planted one of the double white brugs that look kinda "shredded" when it bloomed last year in the yard. I'm kinda new to brugs so sorry that I don't have the proper name. It did ok but not great. Forgot about it last fall during my cleanup and did nothing to protect it. It is coming up this year like gangbusters, looking even better than last year. We'll see what happens.....

kathy, the lowest I remember was down to 15, for about a minute, then it started going back up, we had lots of 32 degree freezes, with ice to prove it, that lasted a couple of days, maybe more, when it's cold here, it's colder than the top of Ajax mountain, at least it feels like it is and when it's hot it's REALLY hot. I let my brugs have more cold than I hear many of you discuss. Some bring them in when it's in the forties, I keep my green house cold, but not freezing, I let them stay outside until the midnight hour, before the first hard freeze, which was Dec 15/04, and it lasted for several days. We also had a late freeze this year which damaged our plums and blueberrys, apples, etc, we had very little fruit at all. A late freeze generally hurts us more than a week of freezing weather. I thought the brugs were late coming up because of that late freeze too...

So if you plant them in the groud and your winters are cold, do you cut them back to the ground and cover them with lots of mulch? Basically starting from scratch each year?

I've got Frosty Pink, & Miss Ann and two others that I can't remember the names of in pots on my porch. I overwintered them all in the garage, kept them watered and they sprung back to life in March. Both of those above have buds galore. I'd love to put them in the ground because the garage was rather cramped with them.

No, I do not cut them to the ground, I take all the cuttings I want, leave the stalks standing and remove the frozen leaves. Before Easter, I examine the stalks and if any look 'alive', I continue to leave those stalks. When the new growth appears, if it's stormy, especially windy, I use the dead stalks for stakes to keep them from blowing to kingdom come. When they get about a foot tall, I cut out any dead stalks...this year, I cut into live stalks about 9 inches outta the ground on some and gave them to my grands to make log rootings for school and they worked...

I Did cut mine back to the ground, and I put tape over the part I cut LOL, I guess to keep the water from going down to the roots and rotting the whole plant, and mulched with wood chips, heavily

I left about 5 ft of Brug which had died by spring; the plant came back from underground, after I removed most of the mulch.

I mix my mulch, cypress and cedar...kathy, how would the tape stop the monsoons from getting the roots wet, lol, I bet it was duct tape, huh?? I have two unknowns that wintered outside and are covered in buds, I just found the buds today and this is a record for me, having a brug wintered outside blooming this early, it is about 4 feet tall and in lots of sun, hmmm. Even tho I'm giving the two unknowns away, I'm really tickled that they have buds!!

I tried leaving a couple of cuttings in the ground, mulched but not heavily. Neither one came back, but they were not very big cuttings either. Some unkown white. We got down to 19 several nights in a row. I have several planted in the ground now that I will leave in the ground & just take cuttings, mulch heavily & see what happens. The rest of mine are in pots I live in No. CA. zone 7. Bj

yes it was duct tape, someone told me if you leave the cutting like that it would rot out eventually and get a hole in the center, and mine did, so I put duct tape over the hole and threw a bunch of mulch on top. I have no idea if the tape is still there, LOL, I know I never took off the mulch, and their sending up 2 shoots(insignus is ) and the other is coming up too. someone said that iris's would rot like that too, what ever you cut off gets a hole in the center, and water runs right down to the roots and rots it. so I wanted to make sure it wouldn't happen LOL. don't know if it helped or if it would have come back anyways.

As soon as my son gets back from camp, we're going to be putting alot of bruggies in the ground LOL

I think I'll try leaving a couple in ground in protected areas on the south side and PILE up the mulch. I think I'll make a cap of aluminum foil over the ends and follow your lead.

Bj, I hope its worth your time. I suppose that where ever I lived that I'd try at least a couple of less important brugs outside for the winter, with backup cuttings. My rule is 2 sacks of 2 cubic yds of mulch, per brug. I have one so big that i put four sacks on it. I had one that was broken in half an was not big to begin with, Pink Favorite, and I only used one sack, but she was already mulched heavy. Guess what? I found buds on her this morning too - I never would have believed that PF would bud before PB and Rosamond, but she did...it's getting to the time of the season that I really love, it's possible that I will have several blooming at the same time. Susanne has buds too but she's in a pot - will put her in the ground just as soon as I can get a cutting...

I thought I would bump this up to see if some more people that live in Zone 7 will respond.

Judy

I'm also in z7 and out of 8 brugs that I left in the ground......8 of them did not come back. All of them were mulched and most of the mulch stayed except for 2 of them. But all of them must have died cuz I think I would have seen life by now if they hadn't!

that's bad brinda, so sad. bummer, we know they do'nt make it in the real cold. what was your coldest winter night? temperature do youremember?

GM Kathy! I'm trying to remember here, but I think our coldest was in the teens this year and not for a long period. But we normally have frigid temps for long periods. I was really hoping that one or two might make it since our temps weren't as bad as normal, but nope.....they didn't.

Gosh, Brinda, what a bummer. I live on the border of zone 7. Does zone 7 have an A and a B?
I hope you had back ups for the ones you lost...

I did have backups, thanks Sherry! And yes 7 does have A & B. I think I'm right on the border of them. From what I remember the ones that didn't come back were S Gold, S White, Sunkissed, , DS, CG, SnowCone & Cupid's Blush. I know there was another but don't remember which one.

I assume I must live on the border of zone 7b/8a, but it does not have zone 7b on the map that I used. We had cold in the teens, but like you, not for much time. I used two sacks of mulch on each brug, all mine came back - the only one I have that you have is DS. We had a late freeze and I thought mine would be goners for sure, because I had already pulled the mulch away from some of them, I couldn't believe they made it because our fruit crop was damaged by half. This spring started off dry and I can really see it in my brugs, when it did rain, they had a growing spurt, when it was dry, dry, they grew up, but not out, which gives them a leggy look. But I've had blooms and many are loaded with buds, so I'm pretty pleased...