I'm new to this forum. It's my first Brug and I don't know the name of it. I know that there are a lot out there but it was purchased at a local nursery about 2 years ago so I am hoping it is easily recognized.
I love all of the Brugs on this site and lurk every once in awhile. What lovely things they are.
Hi Doss! You have a sanguinea. And a very pretty one at that. I wonder if it is the one that Annie Annuals sells to the nurseries around here. It loves our weather, cool nights!
Oh wow, it looks like one of those they say I can't grow down here. I'm sure someone who knows for sure will come up with a name for you. It's beautiful. If you ever have a cutting to spare I would love one.
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I planted 5 of those red seeds and only one sprouted, I sure hope it turns out like your's. Lucky you to be able to buy Brugs already with buds.
Doris
My goodness. Thanks Kell for helping me out. Clearly you're right. When I read that this one grows to 35 feet and saw that huge trunk - I was in shock. Luckily the one of the lady sitting under the potted one brought me back to life. :-) And it could be an Annie's Annuals plant - easily.
I have a friend that picked out tow white brugs for me and I asked her to exchange it for a peach one, thinking of the big-belled ones. She came back with these two. I love them. They are growing in a whole lot of shade between a building on the west and a large tree on the east and one more on the south. I was thinking of moving them - won't do that now. They've been in the ground about 3 years now and it's the first time that I've had real flowers.
This year they were quite anemic and yellow looking in the spring so I've been adding ironite to the 5-10-10 I feed my flowering plants. I don't know anything about them, but it does seem like they are heavy feeders given the results. I'm just blundering about here. They are also planted in a planting strip that is about 18 inches wide so I have to keep them headed back a lot. Looking at it in the photo below, it's still looking yellow in places.
Suggestions?
I could certainly try taking a cutting for you but I've never shipped a cutting or even taken one of a brug. Any more suggestions?
I'm always full of questions. Thanks.
I would be careful of using Ironite, Doss. There is big controversy going on about the safety of that stuff. There is supposedly a very high level of arsenic in it. I believe there are other kinds of iron that do not have these allegations.
http://www.watoxics.org/content/pdf/IroniteConsumerFacts.pdf
When my brugs get yellow, I foliar and ground feed with Miracle Grow. It seems to help. I see you use a low nitrogen fertilzer. I would switch to a higher nitrogen one. Nitrogen helps to green them up. Also brugs do tend to lose their older leaves by yellowing the dropping. They also react to stress this way or lack of water. Also you probably get hot in the day, hotter than they love. How hot does it get over there at Stanford? I recall sitting in the stadium there last June for my son's graduation and dying in the sun!! It was just terrible. Sangs are different than the other brugs in that they like it cooler, esp the cool nights. Though yours are happy enough to flower!
Thanks for the offer, Doss. That big trunk you saw was from my yard. LOL.
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Sorry Kell, I didn't make it clear. It was buns who asked about a cutting.
Now how old is your giant trunked Brug?
Congratulations on your son graduating from Stanford. Quite an achievement. I'll bet that you're proud. And yes. For some reason it gets hotter than hades every graduation. It doesn't help that the audience and the students have to face into the sun while the profs and the vips sit under a tent facing away from the sun. And all of the silliness with rollerskating etc.
I used to go a lot to watch students of DH graduate. No more however. The small department graduations are nice though.
The temperature here is quite cool in the night but we have some days that get well over 90. Not a lot. But this plant was yellow beginning in the spring. And thank's for the heads-up on the ironite. Don't want to be adding arsenic to the soil. I already yanked out some cured wood for the same thing (or some poison, I can't remember now).
Do you use an acid miraclegrow on your brugs? I usually spray once a month but haven't this year because I've had to spray twice a month for Iris leaf spot and there's only so much I can do. I'm past that though so here's back to miracle grow.
I feel like a novice here. Sounds like rose food would be right then. I think that I assume things are more like Iris than they should be. One track mind.
I have been using alfalfa meal this year for the first time. They use it a lot on roses. It's an experiment. Not a bad top dressing too, if it doesn't do the plants harm.
So far, so good. Thanks for reminding me to foliar spray though. My yard is a little to big for me. But I just got new hoses so maybe it will be better.
It's possible that they lacked water this winter. I turn the sprinklers off when it's raining all of the time (go figure). These plants live under an overhang from the house so they were probably not getting all of the H20 they need. The sprinklers are back on now though so that's fixed. I was not good this winter about keeping up with the areas not on the sprinklers. Sometimes I'm just not up to it.
You are so helpful everywhere I run into you. Thanks a bunch.
Thanks Doss. I just had a telephone consult on your sang by a most knowledgeable brug person. She said to check you sang for spidermites. Hard to tell by picture, but she thinks you have them. Spidermites love brugs. If you have them, you can try that Bayer rose fertilizer/insecticide granules on them if you are not anti-insecticides. I water the plant well, then the next day I put the granules around the base, and then water in. It can burn so I learned the hard way not to use on a dry and real thirsty plant. Neem oil is good too as a spray and it is not an insecticide.
I use the regular Miracle Grow. Mostly as a foliar spray. I actually use whatever fertilizer I have around. For my brugs in the ground I toss 16-16-16. I do use alfalfa sludge on my roses. They love it. My brugs did not seem to notice when I used it on them though some people here swear by it on everything. I put Epsom salts in it and they just love the combo.
Good luck Doss, and it is good to see you over here on the brug forum. We have a lot of fun here!!
You sure do have fun. Thanks for the inffo.
I haven't seen any spidermites on my brugs - but I'll look. Between my redwood trees and my hardenbergia I have to fight it. And I have been using Bayer products. I don't think that I would have to if my neighbor didn't have 25 redwoods. I'm going to rip out the hardenbergia though. It's really a spider mite magnet. Pretty, but not worth it.
And thanks for the info about the feeding. I've got foliar spraying scheduled for tomorrow and I'll check the mites out. It would be nice to see the Brugs being happy. I do think that they don't get enough sun though. :-(
Hi Doss! Welcome to the Brug Forum! What a beautiful sanguinea you have!!
I've heard from Kell just exactly how hot it can be sitting on the Stanford bleachers for their graduation ceremony! We'll find out in a couple of weeks!
Hope to see you around the Brug Forum more often!
Oh Hi Shirley!!! That is right, you are about to find out first hand. LOL. You MUST bring a wide brim hat. We didn't and I had to send my husband to buy straw hats that they sell there with a Stanford ribbon around it. We were cooking. I think they charged $28 a piece. I am still so mad. LOL. After about $180,000 I had paid for tuition, you would think they would throw those in or at least not gouge us for them.
Let us know if you have spidermites, Doss. If you do I will be so impressed with Tracey making the call from Missouri. Though I sure hope you do not. I love the Bayer products. I hate to spray and they make it so easy just treating the soil.
Thanks for the warning, Kell. We'll bring wide brim hats & lots of sunscreen!
Shirley, If you have a moment - drop by and take a break. We'll have tea in the garden. We're right on campus.
Bring water and lunch too to graduation. After the big graduation you go to the department graduations directly. It's a big morning. Also, you might find out who the Bachelorate speaker is. I've always found them particularly interesting and inspiring. I have never forgotten a few of them.
And congratulations! Both of you have brilliant children. Do you think that it has anything to do with Brugs? :-) Or Brug mamas.
And Kell and Shirley, what are their fields?
And they got their brains from us, right Shirley?? LOL My kid graduated Stanford with 2 degrees, one in Political Science and one in Computer Science. He is now at Columbia Law School, 1st year just about over. He is soon to come home to a great job for the summer in a law firm. I love to brag about him. He is my claim to fame.
My baby boo boy!! Don't tell him I called him that in public. LOL
Handsome too! You have a right to brag about him. He's worked hard. Just two more years of law school and you'll be solvent. I'll bet you miss him all the way back at Columbia though. It will be really fun to have him home for the summer. Enjoy. It's almost here. I love it baby boo boy. That must have started when he was pretty little. Hard to believe that they grow up so fast.
And I don't know. My friend's daughter was really embarrassed to admit that she'd graduated from Harvard Law. I think that it would have been easier for her to be called a baby name. Silly.
And this Kell-mama loves her boy. It's the way it should be.
doss, I use that Bayer's 2-in-1 Rose Fertilizer with the systemic insecticide. My brugs never had any bugs of any kind. I also use the alfalfa pellets and extra bone meal as my soil is quite low in phosphorus...
I need one of those red brugs as my nights are quite cool - anyone with a cutting they don't need?
Your Sanguinea is beautiful Doss. Welcome to the Brug forum.
Thanks Doss. We used to call him Baby TT too. Still do when we are all alone. LOL. Poor kid. You are right, I can't wait to see him and he IMed me yesterday and said he can't wait to get home. He will be here in time for sushi Friday night. That is one of the things he missed most, getting us to pay for his sushi. LOL. NY sushi is double the price. Soon he will be buying ours. Harvard Law is such a great school why would she be embarrassed? If it had been in NY, T would have gone there. My nephew will probably be going there. At least he has it in his sights. My other nephew is going to Yale Law School. We are going to have too many lawyers in our family!
Kell, evidently girls shouldn't be that smart and it's quite a problem. They complain that people treat them differently when they find out that they've gone to Harvard Law. I can believe it. You wouldn't believe how intimidated some people get finding out that DH is a Stanford Professor. I think that it's just the unknown. My daughters have been pretty shocked to find out how he is perceived in the rest of the world. He's just Dad to them.
Enjoy your sushi and baby TT. :-) What kind of law is he interested in?
Thanks for the welcome everyone. I appreciate it. I will treat the Brugs with the Bayer anyway, it's in the closet and I'm fertilizing today.
Woodspirit, I don't have a cutting and don't know how, but I'd be happy to do what I can. I've done cuttings of other plants, but never of a brug and I've never shipped one. There are warnings on the trade page to not send ones that aren't really started. If you'd give me some info, I'd gladly try if possible. I don't do trades anyway, cause Calif. has laws about importing vegetation that I have to respect. But you can have what I've got.
Buns asked too, but I haven't heard anything more.
Absolutely positively, Kell! Their brains definitely came from their Brug Mamas! :~) Your son is not only very smart & very handsome, but he loves to be photographed in front of his Mother's gorgeous Brugs! He obviously has excellent taste too!
Our oldest son Eric finished his Masters in Aerospace Engineering last December. We are flying out in a few weeks because Stanford only has one commencement in June. Thank goodness his company paid for his M.E. and they were very flexible with his work schedule. He could take classes on campus and a few were even televised at his work place.
What does your DH teach? What department is he in?
Thank you very much for your very kind invitation! That is so sweet of you! Let me see what is planned after the formal graduation. I'll get back to you.
Gee Doss, no one ever treated me differently. LOL LOL
T is doing Intellectual Property Law this summer. He is a hot commodity because of his Stanford engineering degree. Esp. to Silicon Valley law firms. So he shall see if he loves it. He does love law though and worse he loves New York City. After this summer we may lose him to it. He was desperate to go to law school in Washington or NY. The 2 places I told him he could not go. He said Ma, that is where it is happening. And off the kid went.
Shirley, you must be so proud. Aeorospace engineering sounds so difficult!!
I am not sure you even want to spend your time with sang cuttings. They are tricky. I finally succeeded, but not on every batch. It is easier to take a paint brush and cross pollinte a few of your blooms there Doss. Sangs make huge funny looking fruit. Or at least mine did. It would be fun for you to watch. They do take about 9 months to ripen though.
DH is a cryptographer. He was in the information theory of the Electrical Engineering department but took early retirement. Now he's enjoying life with the family, gliding, writing patents (speaking of intellectual properties) and consulting on a couple of patent cases. When T gets going, he should give us a ring. :-)
By the way Shirley, make your restaurant reservations now. If you want any suggestions I'd be glad to give them to you. Just tell me what you like. Or you can bring take out here.. Sometimes waiting lines can be brutal at graduation time. Just give a ring if you can't get in. I know that it's a busy time, so enjoy whatever you decide to do. Does he work locally?
I'd cook for you, but I don't cook for anybody. lol
I'll try the paintbrush approach Kell. I've been gardening for 30 years. 9 months doesn't seem like much. I'll do it with my granddaughter. It's something to do when she's not pulling the neighbor's ivy off the fence or snapping off old daylilies --- or having caterpillar funerals or going 'backpacking' and making my black cavalier a 'skunk' and my red one a 'mountain lion'. She makes me very happy, can you tell? She is holding her breath until she gets her 'Celeste' iris. She'll have to wait until fall and then until spring. If she can wait, I guess I can. She has chosen 'Cee Cee' too so I have to go change my order at superstition. But I love to do it.
Sounds like a gardener in the making. I wish I had a little to share my love with!
She's a sweetie all the way around. Kids are getting married and starting families so much later now. My daughters are in their mid-30's. I'm also lucky that I get Celeste almost everyday after school - and usually two or three of her friends. I have to enjoy it while it's here. I don't think that I'll be having anymore. My other two grandkids are in Colorado. I miss them.
Here's a picture of the very happy graduate, which was taken on Stanford's campus. He always enjoys a challenge and Aerospace Engr. definitely provides that! He loves California livin' and thoroughly enjoys being in the Silicon Valley area. Kell, it seems that our sons have switched coasts and seem to be very happy with their decisions. It just means that we get to travel more often! Plus, we are very grateful that he has both feet firmly planted on terra firma, because if he had his wish, he'd be on the next space shuttle!
Enjoy your precious granddaughter and her very vivid imagination, because they grow up so quickly! I know she is a big help to you in the garden & you thorougly enjoy spending as much time with her as possible. Thank goodness for air travel because Colorado isn't that far from you and it is such a beautiful state to visit. Plus, you have several excellent reasons to travel there as much as possible!
I'll send you an e-mail to get ideas about restaurants in your area, plus S.F.
One more handsome - and very tall young man. You've brought up an adventurer. Good for you. My husband said when he was a kid he always wanted to be an explorer but he knew he had to be a scientist.????
Anyway, the truth is that to be an adventurer now, you do have to be a scientist. Do you know who his advisor is? We may very well know him.
Sadly, I can't go to Colorado because of a list of health problems but that's another story. But my daughter and grandson are coming for two weeks in June and then my granddaughter stays for a month in the summer. I may be able to squeeze five weeks out of it this year. :-)
Both of my granddaughters are 10 and they really grew up together until last year when my daughter moved. So they are happy to see each other in the summer.
I'll see you re; restaurants on email. I don't know much about SF restaurants, but I can sure find out for you.
Thanks for the compliments, but the picture didn't scan quite as well as I thought it would. Just thought it would be neat to have him posing on campus!
He is mostly definitely an adventurer, explorer & outdoors person. That's why he loves living in Calif. It offers him so many possibilities....never a dull moment! I don't know who his advisor is, but I'll find out and let you know.
That's so wonderful that your granddaughters will be together again this Summer. I'm sure they are looking forward to seeing each other again, as much as, you & your DH are.
I'm sending you an e-mail as we speak!
You said:
"Plus, we are very grateful that he has both feet firmly planted on terra firma"
LOL Shirley, think again!!! You are talking about California!! LOL We never are standing on terra firma here, you learn that pretty quickly after being here a bit. Maybe you will get to experience when the earth moves beneath your feet. It is truly an odd sensation!
Your son is so handsome, he looks like mine!! LOL Both are tall, dark and handsome.
Can I get into the restaurant suggestions? Though you need to call right away for most of these as they are incredibly busy. Some we have had reservations in for over 2 months or we would be out of luck.
2 incredible restaurants are Michael Mina and Gary Danko in San Francisco. They are amazing. A true delight. We are going to both in the next 2 weeks. You can not find better.
http://www.opentable.com/rest_profile.aspx?rid=3009
http://www.westinstfrancis.com/default2.asp?sID=Dini&pID=Rest
http://www.garydanko.com/
A fun place to go to in San Francisco is the Ferry Building. http://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/
We like to eat at Slanted Door
http://www.slanteddoor.com/
Or at Hog Island for raw oysters. If you love raw oysters, you will be amazed. And in both places you can sit and look out at the water.
As far as Palo Alto, I bet Doss knows much more than I do. I have only been to a few.
If you like Vietnamese, Tamarine is truly a step above the usual. We love this one.
http://www.lovetoeatandtravel.com/Site/Sfbay/Peninsula/Food/tamarine.htm
http://www.tamarinerestaurant.com/
I have great meals at Spagos but the last time we went (a couple of months ago) it was not very good.
Spago - Palo Alto Wolfgang Puck
http://www.wolfgangpuck.com/rest/fine/spago/
http://www.opentable.com/rest_profile.aspx?rid=1678&ref=342
And the most fun place is Buca Di Beppo. What a riot especially if you have a large party and love noise and activity. We would take T's friends here. i tis very close to the campus. Family style.
http://www.bucadibeppo.com/
And on Graduation day, there were few restaurants open so late in the afternoon for a late lunch but yet were festive. So we went to Bravo Fono at the Stanford Shopping Mall. It was just excellent, which I was somewhat surprised at being that it was in the mall. We had a large party and everyone had a great time.
Bravo Fono
http://stanfordshop.com/tenant_details.aspx?lmnu=3&ID=841&TID=47906
I would love to hear where Doss likes to eat. We love going out to eat excellent food. The Bay area has incredible restaurants!!
Beppo's is great - you should go with a group. And you're right about Spago's. I can't figure out why people eat there. Tamarine is fabulous. I'd forgotten. Iberia in Menlo Park is fabulous. Just east of El Camino. 325-8981. You need to get a reservation early for this one. I did tell Shirley, Kell, that one of the gems of Palo Alto is Cafe Riache. Italian with outside dining. It's tucked back in a little corner in back of the courthouse. I know that there's something I'm missing - but I'll come back to it.
As far as graduation day, I'm thinking. I do believe that Il Fornaio is open late - but maybe not. I'll check. Hmmmmm. Cibo bar and grill, while just a coffee shop has pretty good food - reasonable prices. If you like hot they have a spicy steak salad to die for. I order it all the time. They are open almost all the time. 494-2426. El Grullense - the taco truck taken into a restaurant never closes. It's at Middlefield Road and Woodside road across from Costco.
I'll put my thinking hat on. Late lunches. It's a good thing to think about Kell. Good catch.
Oh, another good place downtown, the won't be open for a late lunch, is Evvia which is Greek/californian. 326-0983. Our restaurants always have some kind of a slash, but I don't think that Evvia has an offical one.
I'll do some more thinking about the afternoon thing.
oh you are making me hungry! LOL
Well, kell, you can just give your friend a big kiss and a hug for me. There they were - the little spiderwebs. Spidermites it is. She's a genious. I can't believe that I didn't even consider it. I've never had spidermites on that side of my garden. Well, I guess I did. So I got out my Bayer. It's funny to be able to talk about pesticides here. The Iris forum is pretty strict about that sort of thing.
Doss...welcome to the brug forum...it is good to see you. I was going to write you that Shirley would be in CA...but I see you already know it! I was glad to read all the info. on the two sons!
My good friends daughter is graduating Stanford too. I believe it is either her Masters or PhD in Aeron. Engineering next month. I guess she already finished, but she will be walking...I guess they call it.
Shirley...wouldn't it be funny if they knew each other?! Her name is Samantha Infeld...I knew her since she was born. See you soon. I am trying to get kell to come to the DL open-house to meet us all...please try and encourage her too. Maybe if we promise to buy her sushi afterwards, do you think?
Margie
Thank you Margie, It's fun over here, that's for sure. Maybe I'll just to have to grow some more Brugs? Outside the fence where my doggies can't eat them?
Say congratulations to your friend!
Kell, you are SO right! I wasn't thinking about earthquakes when I wrote, "we are very grateful that he has both feet firmly planted on terra firma". I just meant that at least he is on planet Earth & not traveling to some unknown galaxy! (giggle) "You are talking about California!! LOL We never are standing on terra firma here, you learn that pretty quickly after being here a bit. Maybe you will get to experience when the earth moves beneath your feet. It is truly an odd sensation!" Would you believe that we already have experienced the ground shaking beneath our feet when we made our first visit to Yosemite Nat'l. Park b.c. (before children). We were staying outside one of the park's entrances, in a lovely motel with a babbling brook behind it. All of a sudden, it sounded & felt like a freight train was running through the middle of our motel room! We ran out of the room into the parking lot with a lot of other frightened & bewildered guests. Thank goodness it was ONLY a tremor of about 4.0, but it was definitely high enough for us! It was quite an experience and one that we NEVER forgot! In fact, when we went back to Yosemite two years ago with Eric, the motel that we remembered was no longer there! In it's place was a brand new one. We told the front desk that we had stayed in a motel on this site over 25yrs. ago and they said that the old motel was demolished by humungous boulders that had rolled down the mountainside in another earthquake, several years ago! We considered ourselves very lucky that we ONLY felt the earth shake, rattle & roll....it could have been a whole different scenario!
THANK YOU, Thank You, thank you!!! WOW! Talk about a gastronomical adventure! So many great restaurants to choose from!! I'll definitely check out all the different websites and let you know which one we finally decide on. As I told Doss, we definitely will not starve! Thanks again to both of you for all your help! It is very much appreciated.
Margie, to the best mini round-up coordinator in N. Calif! You're awesome girl! Thank you for organizing our get together! So many wonderful gardeners to meet and I'll be able to finally put names & faces together! I can hardly wait!! This is going to be SO MUCH FUN!!!!!
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Congratulations to your friend's daughter too! I'll have to ask my son if he knows her. Since Stanford is not a large school, chances are that maybe they may have crossed paths! I'll ask and let you know.
P.S. I'll work on Kell and try to twist her arm (gently). Don't want to hurt another Brug Mama!
