Here's a picture of my latifolia leaf, almost big enough to eat from:-).
Blessings,
Awanda
Now this is a leaf!
Hi Awanda,
That is huge!!!!!!!!!! How did it become so?
Thanks!
GH
Really cool Awanda. I have one marked Latifolia, but my leaf is shaped different. It is no telling what I really have.
GH this was the size of the leaf when I received it, it has about 3 more the same size or larger.
Patricia I got this from David Liddle, so I'm sure the name is correct.
Blessings,
Awanda
That is so cool Awanda! Some of the leaves are so beautiful I doesn't matter if they ever bloom. I might have to put that on my wish list.
I'm jealous Awanda,I also got one of those from David and my leaves were almost that big but not quite they were as big as my hand though..
I was very pleased with the plants I got from him. Some of the cuttings were close to 3 feet long.
Amazing! I have that one too and am in awe of the size of the leaves.
Awanda, thats amazing!!! If one fall off you can use it to fan yourself on those hot Arizona days LOL
Ric
Ric, now that's funny:-).
Blessings,
Awanda
I guess this will be another one to add to my want list. It never ends does it.
Wow...now that *is* a leaf, indeed!
Awanda...you've always got something interesting happening in that greenhouse!
I'm with you, Jerodsmom....adding that one to the want list!
Awanda,
Do the young leaves on your ?latifolia look like this. I have this one labeled as latifolia and you can see a big difference from my loyceandrewsiana when a new leaf starts to form. The latifolia leaf strart out a really nice maroon color and then it turns green as it ages.
Ric's leaf looks like mine, as well.
Carol
Ric since I just received this as a cutting, I don't know how the younger leaves look:-).
Blessings,
Awanda
VERY nice Awanda! I also enjoyed the David Liddle order as always (now I need to get busy and start potting them up, they always root soooooo FAST)
jerodsmom, Logees sells Hoya motoskei (the true carnosa) as Hoya latifolia, could that be what you have?
Lesli thanks for letting me know that's what I have. I brought the plant labeled as "latifolia" from Logees' a couple of years ago, but didn't know what I had until now.
Blessings,
Awanda
Ric..I have the same from D. Liddle...it is IML1540 H. aff. latifolia. The "aff." is important not to lose in the name because it means that it hasn't been verified but that it is close to the description.
Awanda...does that leaf look like the hoya Norma sent you...the H. loyceandrewsiana? or H. diversifolia B as some call it?
Carol,
Awanda's leaf looks like the one I have labeled as loyceandrewsiana, The leaves are quite different in the veining and the way the form. The one I have labeled as ?latifolia did not come from David Liddle. The two are not the same. I'm no expert but having seen them grow next to each other, I would be surprised if their flowers were identical. I will take more pics of the leaves in different stages and post'em here.
Ric...looking more closely at your photo...they aren't the same. Here is the photo of mine...
Ric...would yours be H. macrophylla?
I thought I should catch up on all the threads that you hoya teasers have posted. Holy Crapoli the latifolia is totally awesome, Awanda! You said you got it from David Liddle? I've heard that name before so I'm assuming he must have a site? If I got this one, I would have to kick somebody out of the house....lol.
:) Donna
Oh... I likey.. ;)
Awanda - - that leaf is HUGE-O-LA! I goooootta git me some of that SuperThrive and Eleanor's stuff you been talking about! =O)
I'm with you Donna, what happens when these babies grow up? There's not a hoop or spiral or curtain rod in the world to hold them back!!!! Yikes.
Hey ceedub, where have you been? I haven't seen you on in awhile, ya doing O.K.?
I don't know but I would sure try hard....lol. I bet Christine is busy with her grandbaby. She had been sick with a bad cold around the same time as me. I hope she's okay to!
:) Donna
New grandbaby... How cool. Wish I had a grandbaby. But no, my son just keeps getting dogs. I should start dressing them up and maybe he will get the hint. Hey ceedub wheres the pictures? Hope your feeling better. Did you have the flu or just a cold?
Here is her thread:
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/549809/
Oh I need a cuddly little grandaughter to snuggle up in my arms... That is sure some head of hair.. I'm jealous.....
Congradulations Ceedub.
OK...re: H. 'latifolia'. The REAL H. latifolia isn't identified yet...all of these in circulation are H. aff. latifolia with different IML numbers. Awanda, yours is IML 88 and it H. aff latifolia. Rics is IML 1540. When I was in OZ I got another H. aff. latifolia (forget the number). If, when writing the name, you leave off the 'aff' it means that it IS the species. All of them in circulation as of now are 'aff' latifolia which means " not sure it is the real one, but it sure looks close".
That IML 88 is the one that was circulated as H. diversifolia B and as H. loyceandrewsiana.
HTH, Carol
Okay, here I go again ~~ asking QUESTIONS! Hope I'm not being a pest...but there's soooo much to learn!
* What does the IML number mean?
* I bought a hoya from EA that was labeled "Bilobatta" but you guys explained to me that EA often mislabels their hoyas (and after reading Carol's post on how and WHY this happens, I'm a bit more forgiving towards EA!) and this particular hoya was really
"DS-70", not Bilobatta. What kind of a name is "DS-70"?! Is there some particular meaning behind it?
* ....and what does "HTH" mean?
Maybe I should change my signon to "Curious George"....
Thank...Betsy
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You know, in my job I have to attend conferences to keep up my credentials and to learn about new things in the field. I think some of you "hoya mentors" should hold a "Hoya Seminar" and teach some of us "hoya newbies" some of the ins and outs of what you have learned through your experiences. Of course, that's what we're doing here on the forum, I guess I'd just like to meet some (all!) of you in person!! Maybe we could finance such a seminar through sales of our Fed Ex guy calendar!! LOL Karen
Amazing leaves ladies! Ü
Betsy in order for us to learn all there is about hoyas, we would't have time to do anything else:-). I've had enough school in my lifetime, one MA is enough:-). I try as best I can to lable my hoyas correctly, but if I mis-lable one, I'm not going to beat myself up. For me life is way too short, to be consumed and stressed out wondering if all of my hoyas are labeled correctly:-)
Blessings,
Awanda
HTH = Hope this Helps (smile)
Serious collectors such as David Liddle in Australia, assign a number/alpha designation to THAT hoya. No matter how many times the name changes (i.e. H. burtoniae/H.tsangii = H. sp. DS -70) the designation letters/numbers do not change!- It stays H. sp. DS-70 which everyone shortens to H. DS-70 So now that burtoniae/tsangii have been found to be in error, the ID goes back to the original H. sp. DS-70 (David Silberman - 70). As it does not have a name, and it is a species and not a cultivar it carries sp. (species).
David Liddle uses IML (Iris Marie Liddle), his wife's initials as his 'signature'. His numbers must be in the 1700 by now...he has that many hoyas, clones etc. They are not all different hoyas: he will start thru an area and collect a H. verticillata. Not far away, he will collect another, and another maybe yards apart, maybe miles. They are all given numbers. In growing them out, he can study the variations in the different clones. That is why, for instance, we have so many clones of H. verticillata in circulation...some carrying other names that other collectors have given them....but they ARE all H. verticillata.
Boy....I manage to make a short story long, don't I?
Once again - thanks Carol! Had noooo idea what the DS or the IML meant...now I do! Every little bit of light you shed on this clears things up for me!
YIH
(Yes It Helped!) hee hee hee
P.S. I think I'll stick to just hobby collecting/trading/ENJOYING hoyas and leave the naming/IDing/Numbering/Headaches to the experts!
*PHEW* waaaaay too deep for me.
Great explanation, Carol! It's all greek to me to, Betsy!
:) Donna