I dont know what cultivar this AV is, but it sure is exciting me. I recieved it as a variegated green leaf, and it has grown from there. I havent seen the bloom, but Im wondering if the whitish/yellow leaves are normal. The leaves (of the sport?) also have pink in them.
This message was edited Apr 7, 2005 8:24 PM
The stems of this (sport?) are also pink compared to the regular green ones of the same plant. Does this make sense? LOL I think Im confusing myself here.
Here is one more with the flash. These are the true colors.
I'm just learining about all this, too. I have some variegated leaves that I'm growing into plants, and the leaves of my plantlets are very light colored so far (my plants are much smaller than yours)-- as if they only have the light color in the variegation at this point. So there's my two cents, and I'll be interested to see what other people say...
That's pretty cool looking!
I don't know for sure but I would say that is pretty unusal for an AV even a variegated one.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news,but if the white one doesn't have any green on it at all, then it may not live if you separate it from the bunch it is growing with because it may not have enough chlorophyll to survive on it's own.
I'll cross my fingers and hope you get to see it bloom...it should be stunning!
Beautiful !
MsC
This message was edited Apr 8, 2005 11:39 PM
Thanks MsC!! I figured as much LOL. I will just leave it on the mother plant right now. I will try leaf cuttings (thank goodness they are easy to start). There are some leaves with only specks of green. I will try some of both. I sure appreciate your responce.
Shelly keep us posted as to how it grows out ...it could gain more green as it matures if it already has some speckles of green on it. I had a couple of babies from a variegated AV that did the same thing,as they grew they did get more variegation on them and they did fine. They are course gre very slowly .
MsC
That is sure interesting. I can't wait to see how it does.
How's it doing Shelly?
Both the leaves died, as I figured they would, and the plant is still pluckin' along. Thanks for asking! Im anxious to see a bloom or 2.
Shelly that's a pretty plant I sure am interested to see it bloom!
thanks for the update!
MsC
Still looking good! I'd be really interested to see it bloom too. You have it in really bright light I guess to keep that white alive?
Thank you both!
ang, I have it in a north facing window, its bright all day long. I have all my AVs there.. lol I didnt know the white would die without sufficiant (sp?) light.
I think it blooms a rich purple. I have pictures of all my AVs, that I borrowed from the internet, and kept on CD, in-case my comp crashed (which it did), but I didnt save any of the names to the CD. :::slapping forehead:::
Edited to change south facing to north facing. Geez lol.
This message was edited Jul 31, 2005 2:22 PM
Don't you hate that?! I can never remember to save ALL the information I need.
Well, I was told that variegated plants needed extra light to keep their variegation, so somehow in my brain I commuted that to a white sport needing lots of light to survive. Did I make that up??? lol. This is apparently the blind leading the blind hehe. Ms C what's the truth??
Well, that makes sense, because the green is where the chlorophyll is.... a plant with very little green would therefore need lots of light to maximize its potential for photosynthesis.
That is a really cool plant... I can't quite tell from the picture, is it a sucker on the side of another plant in the pot, or is that pot filled with a bunch of violet babies that you started from a leaf? If the latter, you might want to separate some of the babies out of there? The white one may need a buddy to survive, but it looks like there might be quite a few crowns in that pot?
It is a sucker from one plant. Each little leaf got its own pot. They are all just starting to bloom, so hopefully this one wont be too far behind. It is mighty crowded in the pot, but it is only the one plant (per se). The sport takes up half the pot.
"Each leaf got its own pot."
You do know you can get a number of plantlets at one time from a leaf?
I have read a lot of different thoughts on how much light variegated varieties should have to do well.
It is so confusing because one thought says that too much light will turn them all green and another says they need as much light as you can give them to keep the variegation
I do know they need less nitorgen because that will turn them green in short order! Oops done that one recently.:)
They seem to like cooler temps but I can not really say which is the best as far as light goes. I think some of it is very dependent on the variety it self.
I do know that it has to have some color other than white to survive away from the mother plant and I've also seen totally white babies change to a more normal variegation pattern over time,provided they are left with the mother plant to support it.
Not much help I'm afraid...
MsC
edited for really bad typo's
This message was edited Aug 22, 2005 6:31 PM
HI guys! I will be sure to ask my grandmother (the AV expert ;) about this... because I'm curious about such a beautiful plant! And... ... then, maybe Shelly will share a leaf with me! :) I live in Northern CO, will be in Denver and Springs tomorrow, and Pueblo on the 27th for the fair... maybe somewhere in there I'm passing by "Colorful" lol. I could get a fancy gesneriad from my grandma to trade you! What do you like?!?! :)
Whew, good thing I didn't say that out loud! Everyone might get ideas!
P.S. HI JILL! :) I miss you guys out here... School starts on the 22nd, so I oughta be back in the saddle then. I hate living on student aid and getting paid twice a year... make me REAL poor in the summer! Just don't think I've blown you off! I'm here!!! And I'm working on a little surprise to make up for my absence! ;)
Beautiful plant, Shelly!!
Sarah
Critter,
I have 3 different variegated AV. I was wondering how to get a number of plantlets from a single leaf. I don't want to butcher my mother plant to start many new ones. I have only started them by one leaf per pot. Thanks for the info.
I stick one or two leaves per pot, and it varies... sometimes I get 8 babies from one leaf, sometimes just one. I've begun leaving the stems longer on the leaf as somebody suggested (probably MsC!). I still plant the stem just 1/4 to 1/2 inch deep, but after babies pop up and get a little size to them, the stem of the mother leaf can be snipped off, and the mother leaf can be repotted for more babies. The culture page at robsviolet.com suggests that you can also root pieces of the leaf, and I think others here have put down the tip of the leaf (which you may want to snip off anyway to encourage the leaf to grow plantlets rather than putting energy into itself) and gotten babies from it.
I hope you'll soon have lots of plantlets to swap, Kathy! Good luck!
Sarah, HI yourself! I hope your first day of classes is going well! And yes, clearly you should pick up lots of fancy plants at your grandma's for all of us.... or maybe just a bunch of lovely variegated AV leaves? :-)
I read an article that said the number of babies you get from a leaf depends on the age of the mother leaf. The more mature leaf gives only a few babies. The established younger leaf can produce 20 or more.
The article also said that variegated leaf varieties produce better using a leaf that has more green in it.
I also cut the leaf in half planting the bottom half with the stem and throw away the top half. I also tried (out of necessity) cutting into the leaf from the stem up because the leaf broke off leaving no stem. I cut into the leaf and made a stem from the bottom part of the leaf. That leaf produced 4 very health babies that I will be potting up in October.
Nanna
That's so cool, Nanna! I've had leaves with no stems and reluctantly thrown them in the compost. I'll have to try that!
Thanks, Nanna, I am collecting info on these beauties. So far I have not been to successful, about 50%. I have been wanting to buy some leaves but I thought I better practice more. ;O)) Linda
came upon this while looking for 'sport' info for our sticky. JUST TAKE A LOOK at those incredible leaves on the photo dated
Jul 30, 2005
8:20 PM
holy cow! the pure white is so incredible.
Thanks for bumping this! Geez, That is GORGEOUS! I'm such a sucker for variegated foliage, but that takes the cake! Wonder how it's doing now?
Looks to me the pot is full of crowns many variegated most likly crown variegation seen a lot in E. Champions plants . I'm pretty sure she was the first one for the yellow crown variegation and Mosaic .
Some of these plants should and will always have yellow crown variegation. It's gorgeous.
There are many crowns in this plant. I would have separated each crown into it's own correct size pot. The lightest ones you could give some fish emolsion drink and put close to light and keep warm.
I have some of E. Champions love them. Plain and fancy is Vinatge one has a deep yellow and white crown variegation . I have several babies that lost their Mom but they are all coming along just super great !
Also a Sport must have one named parent, the Sport would be grown by a leaf from the named parent, or you may have bought a named plant and it Sported. Also you'd have to know it was not misnamed.
I posted this on Sport link... but I want this important information to get around ! Yes I was correct a Sprot must be stable and bloom true three generations and be improvment of the parent plant to be re-named.
Here is what Joe Burns wrote back fast ! Thanks , Joe ! Joe is in charge of the FC program for AVSA.
allison wrote:
Is a birth mark on a leaf considered a Sport ? I did not think so but someone in our group asked so I wanted to make sure. Also to register a Sport grown from a leaf does it have to be third geration of blooming true ?
A birthmark is not exactly a sport. It's usually unstable. It does indicate, however, that the plant is prone to instability, and it may produce a sport at some time in the future. Sports worth naming and propagating should be an improvement over the variety from which it sported.
Yes, to register the plant, it must be grown vegetatively for three generations to prove that it is stable. You don't count the original sport as one generation. In other words, when you put down a leaf of the sport, the babies are considered the first generation. (In the case of a chimera, sucker propagation is used.)
Joe Bruns
Many of my Rob varieties have striking variegation :)
So if you are asking if that is normal..I believe it is :)
Very Lovely plant.
Now on everything else..I believe everyone gave you better advice then I ever could :)
