Some of my rooting cuttings are putting out really wierd leaves: they seem to "pucker" around the edges...especially at the tip. I have looked for thrips and find none...and no "scat," because it looks like thrip damage. I did notice that a couple of the leaves are mottled with yellow/light green. None of the leaves look healthy.
Reading Monicas' book last night she wrote about Magnesium deficiency causing something similar...Iron too, perhaps. Can anyone second guess me and tell me what it could be?
TIA
Carol
Funny (NOT haha) things with leaves. Help?
Here is the first photo: The one on the left has been rooting now for 3 months...SLOW. The B. 'Snowbank' I just received rooted from an ebay buy...
Second - see how the B. Snowbank has all puffy stuff between the veins?
OK...just one more... Edited to say Thanks for any suggestions. These cutting are outside on my potting bench...altho Snowbank was inside the greenhouse on the heat mat (only 73deg.)...none of the other brugs seem to have this....
This message was edited Apr 3, 2005 7:17 PM
You don't say what the one on the left is. I have one that looks just like that and it is Shreded White. My dauhter has one 400 miles away and hers does too. We both got ours about 6 months ago.
I use Epsom Salts on my plants. None of the other plants look like that.
Jeanette
The leaves on my big Shredded White don't look like that...and I lost the tags to these two cuttings....
But they have looked better!!!
Carol
You may have a virus on your hands. I would keep them away from your others! A couple years back, a group did a study on the use of borax for magnesium deficiency. If I remember correctly, the problem was corrected by spraying a weak soulution of Borax (laundry detergent) every 10 days. (1 tps/gallon). Mg. deficiency does look alot like the thrips damage as new leaves are dwarfed and deformed. Brugs are also prone to tobacco mosaic virus and if that is the case, I would get rid of the plant!
Carol check the underside of the leaves with a magnifying glass for spider mites. In your second picture I see tiny dots on the stem and the leaf but I can't tell if it may be potting soil or mites.
The leaf curl could be a calcium deficiency but I'm just guessing here as there are a couple of deficiencys that look very similar.
I had a leaf curl problem a couple of years ago and some added gypsum took care of the problem.
Hopefully Monika will come along with her trained eye.
Here's a picture of a leaf with calcium deficiency so you can compare it to yours. Notice the leaf edges are curled under.
Do you know what the PH of your soil is?
snow, almost all my seedlings look like that, and some of the larger ones, how much gypsum did you use, and where did you purchase it.
I bought a small bag at Agway my local feed and seed.
If I remember right I mixed 1 tablespoon in a gal. of water and watered it in.
You don't want to use too much or too often though. I think I used it 2 or 3 times at two week intervals. The curled leaves will stay curled but in a couple of weeks all new growth should be normal.
I also had the problem outside so last year I sprinkled a little gypsum in each planting hole and had beautiful leaves all summer.
Some of my seedlings were affected badly by the deficiency before I found out what the problem was. The new growth was stunted and distorted.
Carol, you dont have to worry about Snowbank. The second plant is a B. sanguinea. It is Virus. She is unable to handle it because of the growing conditions at this time of the year.
I would bring her outside and see how she does after four - six weeks.
Thank you so much, Monika...they are under a covered area outside...but I will put them OUT outside today.
pH of my potting soil is fairly neutral...about a 6 (I use my hoya potting soil for the brugs too).
Mel, thanks for the input. No TMV around here...I have tested plants for it. Definitely will isolate the sickies, tho. I may work in some gypsum and epsom salts just in case....
Thanks, all....
Carol
I'm confused (big surprise), which brug has a virus? I would surely do what Monika says. Good luck, Carol!!! Keep us posted. BTW, is there something that can be done to 'cure' or stop the virus, other than taking it outside??
Boy, yall are scaring me with all these viruses and bug. I had some puckered edges on a couple of new plants I got in and eventually they got their act together... in the basement... still. If my hoop house holds 50 tonight, tomorrow everyone goes outside!!
8ft, Good luck with your GH. I hope you kept a photo journal of the construction and can't wait to see photos.