versi ?

Mifflintown, PA(Zone 6a)

I have 4 versi starts planted. The foliage looks weepy on all of them. Is this normal ? They are all nice and green and look good except for droopy leaves.Any help appreciated. Thanks. Dixie

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Are they just cuttings or are they rooted? If they are just new cuttings, most of the leaves can be removed so the energy doesn't have to go to maintain the leaves. If they are already rooted...I have no idea.

Mifflintown, PA(Zone 6a)

They are well rooted abt 20in. tall. My temp is inconstant, maybe thats the trouble.

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Did you just plant them?? If so, did you soak them before planting?? Last year, I did not know to soak the rootings, prior to planting, and they went into shock. But, the revived and did well. Good luck!!!

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

I never soak my rooted cuttings. Out of one pot and into the next. If your temps cool way down, they might just not be liking the cool temps. Versi's like to be warm.

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Brugie, my rootings only had a smidgen of dirt, they arrived wrapped in paper towels and damp. I didn't soak them and all 11 fell out, like they had planned it. There were two versis. I already had them in the new dirt, so I misted and fanned them and prayed. They came back, but I lost Maya, which was tiny but I believe would have made it, if she had been soaked. Others that received rootings from the same place, soaked theirs and they didn't go into shock.
Maybe it was just the HOT weather here, ya think??

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Sorry Sherry, I didn't realize you were talking about rooted cuttings that had just been received. I was just talking about moving from one pot to another. I don't make it a habit to soak any that I get in the mail. I probably do stick one now and then in water until I'm ready to pot, but not for long and not often.

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Nope, I don't do it when I move them from pot to pot either - and, I moved them from pot to pot too often last summer, not doing that this year!! I felt like a dunce last year - I was the only newbie that didn't know to soak them, and, all 11 took a nose dive within minutes after they were potted. I was 'afraid' of the brugs and tried too hard...

Buffalo, NY(Zone 6a)

How exactly do you soak them, in what and for how long?
Are the droopy leaves transplant shock?
Sherry , how did you get yours to recover? By misting?

Greensburg, IN(Zone 6a)

I am still mistified over these plants, I received an order of three rooted brugs last week, all were wrapped the same, all the same size, they all looked fairly good but two of them looked very droopy, lost all the leaves and the stems are a bright green like they are wet, (they are not) the third one did not lose leaves and looks great. it definatly looks like I will lose one of them.

Mifflintown, PA(Zone 6a)

Thanks They are in extra bedroom,when son gets company he is always fooling with the heat,I feel this is what happened. Will they be OK? I have m oved them to a better place. It did not bother the others I have in that room/ I did not know there was that much difference in brugs.

Buffalo, NY(Zone 6a)

I'm sorry Doris, I have the same thing going on here...the one I just got looks like you describe, like it is wet etc, and the other lost a couple leaves, but seems otherwise ok with no droop. I will try Sherry's method of prayer too.LOL
I feel like if I could just get these outside I'd be fine, but it is still too cold here.

Deltona, FL(Zone 9a)

I have really good luck with cuttings with out roots or with... If the rooted cuttings come without soil... I alway hydrate them for a day or so, than the unrooted I use root hormone on them and pot, water well,, do not put them in sun and do not rewater till they seem somwhat dry..over water is a killer... If they are rooted I also set them in water just overnight use transplant powder and pot up again water in, place in a shaded area keep out of all sun for at least a week.Don't water till they need it again water can be a killer as they will rot! Good potting.........

Greensburg, IN(Zone 6a)

same here Hellobebe on the weather but I am going to move some out over the weekend we are supposed to be in the high 60s

Buffalo, NY(Zone 6a)

Thank you Cinnabor!~... I have drowned a few in the past, sad to say.
Good luck Doris!

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Hellobebe, sorry it took me so long, I've been outta town. Of course, the first rootings I got, I did not soak, planted them, all 11 went into shock. I put them in the shade, misted with a smidgen of superthrive, not much and I turned a ceiling fan on low and it wasn't long before they started to revive. The shock definitely set them back but did not kill them, some lost leafs, some didn't. Also, it was late spring when I got them, much hotter than it is now. The next rootings, were immediately put in buckets of room temp water, added SuperThrive, left them in the soak for 'hours', but I think an hour or so is okay - then I planted them in potting soil and they never missed a beat. However, had I known, I would have planted them directly in the ground, since I winter them outside. I played musical pots all growing season last year and I will not be doing that this year. What I do might not be correct for your zone, but soaking rootings is a step I cannot afford to miss in my zone, with hot temps and humidity. Hope this helps!!!!

Joseph, OR(Zone 5a)

Don't laugh, I'm new, but what are versis?

Blushing,
J ;)

Versi =Versicolor Brugmansia
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/59371/
No laughing done by me... Good question to ask if you don't know.
:-)
http://davesgarden.com/botanary/go/6109/

This message was edited Mar 30, 2005 8:57 AM

Joseph, OR(Zone 5a)

Ha, thanks! Duh!

Buffalo, NY(Zone 6a)

Thank you very much for the info....mine are holding their own now, so I will wait and see! Lost many leaves, but not at the top. They assumed sleep position last night (like praying hands) so I will wait now and water only when dry. Unfortunately, mine can't get planted in teh ground until mid May, so they have to live in containers til then.
I will try the soaking when I get any new ones.... I found super thrive at Wal-Mart, and I have it on hand, so I am armed and ready! Thanks Sherry!
Jackie

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Jackie, I love it when they 'pray' - practicing for when they have babies - when they have buds, they turn their leaves up to protect them, very sweet, huh?? Maybe yours are getting ready to bud, I hope, won't that be fun??!!! I love SuperThrive, it's good to have around...

Greensburg, IN(Zone 6a)

Hellobebe, that is funny because mine do the same thing, they are in my bedroom and it is strange to see the top leave all go straight up but have lost the lower leaves.

Mc Call Creek, MS

StvNicksFan, A versicolor brugmansia is one of the wild species of brugmansias.
It's corolla hangs vertically and is trumpet-shaped (as opposed to funnel-shaped). It's fruit (seedpod) is spindle-shaped, and its anthers are not glued together. The calyx has a slit on one side, and the narrowed part of the corolla at the end of the calyx is visible. It has been used often in hybridizing many of the brugmansias seen today.

This is probably more information than you were looking for, but it is the description given by brugmansia authorities Ulrike and Han-Georg Preissel in their book (paraphrased).

Kay

Kannapolis, NC(Zone 7b)

Good job, Kay.

Mc Call Creek, MS

Well, t'anks, Ada!

Kay

Joseph, OR(Zone 5a)

Whoa, Ok! Thanks! Is it true versis do better in the sun and heat?

Mc Call Creek, MS

Well, from my personal knowledge, mine get very wilty in our very humid, hot summers, although they respond well to the coolness of the evening and a good drink of water. This is what most brugs do in our humidity.

I have read that they do not like to be cold.

Someone with more experience than I might have a better answer for you.

Kay

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