Hello All,
I remember last year when I first ventured on this "tropical" phase of gardening, that someone had mentioned not to have Brugs and Daturas close to each other, or something like that. I have some questions about that.
Are you (whomever you are that know this info) talking about not having Brugs & Dats sharing the same water in a flat, or they shouldn't even be in the same room, or they should not even be around each other indoors or even outdoors in the summer?
I have this plan for my front porch this summer - I want to turn it into a tropical paradise and wanted to have potted plants of both on it, as well as other plants I've picked out. I spend alot of time out there reading and listening to music and have even thought about adding one of those little water falls as well. But if they disturb each other I can't do this. I have 4 daturas now that have done well from seed.
Also, should I not put them both in my lil' sunroom at the same time, if they are potted completely separately?
I am going to have to take a pic of my cuttings I received this last year - they are doing awesome. I bought this stuff called "Save a Tree" and added some of the ingredients of Gretchen's (Kauffman) tea. I used it a week ago as mine were getting a little droopy and "voila" - they have perked up beyond belief and are growing strong and happy now.
Oh - another question - should I use Gretchen's tea on Datura's as well? Or do they need something different.
Thanks for any advice on this you can give!
Karrie
Datura vs. Brugsmansia question
Hi Karrie: I just wanted to say I'm not sure why you couldn't have them together but if there is a reason I'd love to here it as well. I have Datura and my hope is to add Brugs to the Collection.
Is there some reason why the two should be kept seperate?
Richard T.
I was trying to remember where I read about good and evil companion plants for brugs and why. My simple, non-scientific brain thinks that it is because they are similar enough to host the same set of problems when affected.
I checked the ABADS site, and this link may have been where I read it, but hopefully a "pro" will come forward to answer.
http://www.americanbrugmansia-daturasociety.org/brugvirus.htm
Scroll down to peruse the info.
I hope this helps....I think they can be relatively close, just don't share pots LOL
Jackie
hmmmm - yes - it says there that Daturas host viruses that can seriously damage Brugmansias. Hopefully one of our experts will jump in here and let me now if I can have them in separate pots on my porch - and how far apart they should be. I'd really like both of them for what I'm doing this year, but I certainly wouldn't want to damage my Brugs that I've worked so hard for.
i had both but mine were like 10-20 feet apart. i think you can have both but a safe distance apart from each other.
Karrie, wonder if it has anything to do with pollenizing? What would you get if a bee went to both plants? You would have a hybridizing bee. LOL
btw, what is Gretchen's formula?
Maybe I need a 4th seedling. I have 3. I am using Alfalfa on one, Algoflash on one, and my regular Peters triple 20 on one. Just trying them all.
Jeanette
How is your Algoflash working Jeanette?? I was given some to try but I haven't had a chance to use it yet...
Sherry, today is the first day I have used it. I made a mistake on my first order and got the mix for flowers so I had to re-order and get the all purpose. That is ok, though 'cause I will use the flowering mix later in the year. Jeanette
Thanks, Jeanette!! I think mine is for the flowers too - oh, well, beggars can't be choosers...the literature says it's wonderful, but don't they all...
Jnette - send me an email tomorrow to remind you and I'll find the link to Gretchen's formula. I'm off to bed right now - just checking on some things before.
Karrie, here's your remind. Jeanette
for several yrs. i had planted brugs and datura together. not a good idea, cuz datura attracts cucumber beetles which do lots of damage both to the leaves and flowers of both plants. last year, i purposely did not plant any datura to see what will be the end result. there were hardly no cuke beetle in the yard. no damage on the brug blooms or leaves!
based on experience, not good to plant datura near brugs. datura do not require plenty of fertilizer. in fact, i have never fertilized the daturas i grew. they seem to be so fertile on their own to produce plenty of flowers on their own. beside, datura prefers to be on the dryer side compared to brugs.
nothing is written in stone as far as planting dats and brugs... just sharing bad experiences learned in the past.
i have both grown dats and brug in pots and in the ground. i find that both grow better being in the ground, properly spaced apart, but like i said i will never grow them near to each other again!
dats grown in the pot, only grow to 1-1/2' tall, whereas grown in the ground can reach to nearly 6' tall.
Well over 1 hour ago I was looking up dats in Preissel's book because he has a section just on dats to see if I could find anything on it for you Karrie. But then I got a phone call and got sidetracked gabbing. And I should have asked my caller, for she is a great brug grower.
Anyway, I just looked again and I do not see it mentioned. He does say they are prone to fungal disease esp Datura metal.
From what I have been told by long time brug growers is that Daturas carry lots of viruses. So I think they feel why have them near brugs since they are contagious.
Here you go Jnette:
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/439614/
I was having a real hard time finding it since it was from early last summer - then I realized I'd saved it in my favorites, lol!
Can the cucumber beetle live up here on the East side of Washington State? I've never seen one.