Rosamond buds opening this evening...

San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

These are the first blooms this year on Rosamond....kind of light in color. I'll see what tomorrow brings!!
So pretty in the twilight....

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Woodsville, NH(Zone 4a)

What a pretty picture. How lucky you are to have blooms this time of year.

Ellicott City, MD(Zone 7a)

Woo Hoo! Way to go, Margie!! Love those beautiful long tendrils and satiny pink color!!

LOOKin good! Does it smell as good as it looks? Please take a shot of it tomorrow and show us.

San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

thank you...yes, I am lucky to have blooms this time of year! I will take a photo tomorrow and post it! Maybe it will darken up some. The scent is kind of mild compared to the CGrinmaldi also in bloom.

Jones Creek, TX(Zone 9a)

Margie that is breathtaking even if it isn't as dark as you would like right now. I would take it anyday....... that is so pretty...........

8o)
Dee

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

So girlie and pretty, Margie!! I know that colors will differ in certain weather conditions - is fragrance like that too, stronger or weaker in certain weather conditions??

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

I believe this one is always light Margie. It is a very pretty one, but very light. I tried a few times to get it to pod, but never had any luck. I am not sure why. Great picture you took!


EDITED TO ADD
LOL !!! LOL!!! When I saw this picture way back, I obviously did not read your heading very carefully. I thought it was Rosabelle!! I get Rosamond to pod all the time. It is Rosabelle that is hard. And Rosabelle never gets dark at all. Funny too, because I was starting to make up a box for you and some others and cut some Rosabelle last night and thought you already had it Margie because of this picture. Rosamond will get darker, but not that much for me!! That is why I like Sexy Lady, she is big and bold but darker. I will send you a piece of her to trial if you want.

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Kannapolis, NC(Zone 7b)

Very pretty, Margie

Buffalo, NY(Zone 6a)

Margie,
How wonderful, she is a pretty one.
Thanks so much for the pic!
Jackie

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

Very pretty shape. For me, in summer, it gets some color, but like you said....first bloom. Time will tell.

Cedar Key, FL(Zone 9a)

Its beautiful!

San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

Here it is the next morning...a little bit darker, but not too much...

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Adrian, MI(Zone 5b)

It's beautiful!! Yep I think I can smell it!!
Bonnie

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

She is prettier every day, lucky, I can't wait for mine to bloom, lots of buds, but it will be a while...

Medford, NJ(Zone 6b)

It's beautiful even without much color. This one must like the heat. My Rosamond is pretty dark all summer.

San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

I really, really like Rosamond the first days it is open, but then the petals fold back and I am not as happy with it...

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San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

I can't figure out why they do that Margie. Does anyone know? I do not like the look either. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. Extreme recurve!! Though I can't say my Rosamond did it alot. RK does it to me all the time.

Medford, NJ(Zone 6b)

The more I see this the more I'm convinced climates make all the difference in growing these plants.
Here is a picture of Rosamond taken on Oct. 03 It did the recuve thing like your plant did but I had a beautiful color to it.


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San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

datdog...what a lovely color. I have only seen my in almost winter and early spring. I hope it gets darker for summer! Yours is beautiful!

Pocahontas, TN(Zone 7b)

datdog - your picture "takes my breath away". Thank you so much for posting it.

Your evaluation "I'm convinced climates make all the difference in growing these plants" certainly has merit. The natural growing conditions of the parent plants could be the dominant factor when comparing Kell's experience with yours.

PictureLady - you had better results than Kell can you advise us of the differences in your and Kell's climates?

(I will research the parents natural growing climate and edit this post with my findings, unless someone can advise us further on this without doing research.)

Judy

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San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

Judy...kell and I live in almost the same area...I am about maybe 45 miles south of her...it does get warmer here I think. And maybe cooler too...not sure about that. I know my brugs and other spring plants are blooming alittle before hers.
Maybe she will come along and give further help about the differences in the weather.
Margie

Pocahontas, TN(Zone 7b)

First thing I find are some pictures by Kell in 2003 on the Plant Database of relatively good color, plus a notation of "Brugmansia hybrid by monika" so I suppose we should just wait for Monika to answer our questions.

Judy

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Beautiful pictures, Margie and Datdog! I agree that climate makes the difference. My pinks are so light compared to everyone else's. I don't know why that is, but I wonder if it has to do with humidity. I am very dry here. My darkest pink is probably Cupid's Blush.

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San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

Clare...it is very dry here in N. Cal. also...that could be the missing ingredient to darker colored brugs! I was thinking that after I posted my message above...both Kell and I would have it dry!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Margie, that must be it, but Kell's pinks seem nice and dark, don't they? Kell will have to tell us what she thinks about this. Shirley's pinks are also nice and dark.

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

I think Monika once said that brugs need humidity to be dark. Don't quote me on that, but for some reason that thought came up when I read your post, Clare.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

I have come to believe it is humidity also, which I do not have. My Rosamond has never been dark like Kristi's, ever ever. At times I do get some hot heat, but mostly it is on the 70's. Margie, you are hotter and cooler than I am I do believe. I am right by the bay.

That is why when I get a dark pink, I am so thrilled!!!! But yellows and oranges get real dark here.

I also read Monika's book very carefully and found an ingredient she thinks helps darken brugs. I bought it 2 years ago and sprinkled it everywhere. I wonder if it took effect for some brugs. LOL

At the end of last season I got some real dark ones. I am waiting on pins and needles to see if they are dark in mid summer. I also can't wait to see them bloom in a hot humid area to see if they are drop dead dark there.

EDITED TO SAY:
OH GOSH............. I just was rereading this thread and saw my March 6th post. I thought we were talking about Rosabelle. So I edited my comment that day too. HELP ME, I AM SO CONFUSED ALL THE TIME. LOL

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San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

? epson salts....I wonder...will have to re-read Monikas book!

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

I have to go look. I have no memory anymore. And this was 2 years ago. I wish it was epsom salts. My yard is full of epsom salts for I grow roses.

Pocahontas, TN(Zone 7b)

Kell,

Just a reminder, you don't have your "copyright" turn on!!! Which Brug is that in the last picture you posted, you didn't say?

Judy

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Thanks, Shirley and Kell. I suspected it might be humidity which I lack too. Kell, that last picture is gorgeous. What does epsom salts do for roses? I better get some for mine.

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San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Oh Clare, run, do not walk to the Epsom salt store. I try to put about half a cup down around each rose 2 weeks before they start to swell out in spring. And let me tell you they take off with such energy and the first flush will WOW you. You now owe me big time Clare!!

That is one of my crosses from last year, Judy. She has no name yet, not even a nickname. I hope she performs well this summer so I can name her and share her.

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San Jose, CA(Zone 9a)

I'll have to do that too kell...only have a few roses and in a shady spot come summer...your roses are beautiful! You hybridize them too??? Wouldn't it be neat to name after your Mom! Just an idea! Something like Birthday Song !!!

High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

margie,

i distincly remember monika mention atmospheric pressure, location, etc... there is a great difference on ur location compared to kell. Margie 131 ft. above sea level, whereas Kell is 46 ft above sea level which means she has more humidity factor in her area compared to urs, since Kell is closer to the ocean? Kell is 37.6º N, 122.1ºW, while Margie is 37.2ºN, 121.9ºW.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Thanks, Kell. I'm a runnin' right now! You're the best:-) Your roses are beautiful.

MaVieRose, that is really interesting and makes perfect sense.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

WOW Ma Vie!! LOL

I just checked your weather to mine, Margie, and the next 4 days and I have bad news.....WE ARE GETTING RAIN AGAIN!!! Do you believe it. It has been so nice.

And our temps are with in 1 degree of each other all week. But I am clear here now and you are overcast, but same temperature 56 degrees! It will be interesting to see how different we are this summer. Anyway, no way I hybridize roses. I am having enough trouble doing brugs. LOL I just enjoy them so much.

Clare, and the best thing about Epsom salts are they are not expensive!!

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High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

as of 3/16/05 11:05 p.m. Pac. time, Kell is clear but 77% humidity ... http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=94544

whereas Margie is overcast but only 51% humidity ... http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=95120

epsom salt u can buy cheaper at the 99¢ stores.

Clare u should try find out ur atmospheric location. if will help a lot to know the effect on ur plants.

i hope Monika confirms that humidity has some effect or not on the flower coloring. otherwise more research is needed.

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

It also coudl be the combination of high humidity and high temps. So is 77% considered high humidity? I have no clue what it usually is. My DH said the wet weather is moving in and that caused it. AlI know is we have very little humidity. I remember being in NJ last summer. I would go outside and be wet. I hated it.

So do the 99cents stores always carry Epsom salts? I know Walgreens has it on sale sometimes. I have been buying it at Lowes, it is marked for the garden. I think they are all the same.

High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

humidity from my layman's understanding of the term is presence of moisture/dampness present in the air.

in my area, yes. all the 99¢ type stores sells them. i see them all over different places like walmart, albertson's, rite-aid, even smart and finals. although i find it cheaper @ the 99¢ store and walmart. Kell, epsom salt is epsom salt no matter how u look at it. the chemical composition, at least from what i read in the ones i bought are the same.

Kell, i for the 1st time opened Monika's book since i bought it 2 yrs ago. read pp 33-34 thoroughly, not skim. u might find something useful. funny what i read in those two pages is the same thing i have been doing in all the 50 yrs of gardening i've done both here in the US and the P.I.

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