Hello, I hope this thread finds you well. I need help on yet another thing, and thank you for stopping by to look.
I have 2 sago palms in 2 gallon containers, but I have no idea how to incorporate them in the landscape.
The good news is, I don't have an establish garden, so it's not like have to move many things around.
What plants are usually planted near sago plants anyway?
Thanks again.
Sincerely,
Annapet
Hi,
I had, and had is the operative word, several in my yard. In Florida, at least in my area, there is a blight going around and killing them. My landscaper friend told me that is would cost more to treat than to replace. However,,,,,
They slowly grow up and about 5' across. You can put anything with them or around. I had them in a Japanese garden, however, they would look great in a tropical setting also. I am in 10 b so they should do well for you. They are SLOW growers.
Good Luck
Nancy Lee............Ft. Lauderdale
I placed mine in a pot & covered the soil with airy moss. Then I placed it on a tree stump, so it was higher in stature that the other plants. It made my own palm tree, as we folks in zone 6 only dream of such things!
I am with happy_1. Japanese or tropical themes incorporating sagos are great. Sloooowww growers. I have transplanted. Planted in 1 location and after 3 years decided on a better place. Hard to do because of a long tap root, plus hard to handle due to spiney leaves. In short, just give some thought to location, because a mistake is not that easy correct. One last thing, the sunnier the location, the better. It just drives me crazy when I see sagos that were planted in less than full sun, and after a while the plant starts leaning towards the light. I don't think it looks very nice when they are crooked like that. No blight problems in my area, that I am aware of.
Thank you all for the replies. Coincidentally, I dream of a Japanese garden, but been slowly collecting the more traditional plants. Nancy Lee, do you have pictures to share of your Japanese garden even without the sagos?
JRush, that's quite innovative!
Vossner, I will give it much thought.
Thanks again for your time.
Oh Dear........I now am being pushed......I know I must get a digy camera.
I think that this may do the trick.
I will get one soon and send some pictures. I'm about ready to redo it for I have had it a long time and getting tired of it. (I love changes) There is enough left for you to get the idea. It may be a week or 2 but I'll splurge for the camera.
Good luck.
Nancy Lee
Oh, Nancy Lee, thank you! Enjoy shopping for your digital camera =).
Happy,
They can be treated and it is not that expensive. Just the cost of a systemic insect killer and some volck oil spray. It does take time and it needs to be treated every week for a couple of months. Mine was totally covered in the asian scale and is now scale free and growing happily.
Jan...
Mercy, Mercy, where were you 2 years or so ago, budgielover? I lost 4.....2 were over 5' high and of the two, one was a double and in the FRONT YARD!!! Oh well, now I know...LOL.
Nancy Lee
Mine was a year ago and you'd think it'd snowed from the ground up.
The undersides of every frond plus the trunk was covered with the little dickens.
Nancy Lee - We bought the cheapest digital camera there was - $100 at the time. People have asked me what camera I use, thinking it was a really expensive one. It may not have many features, but it works great for my purposes.
Annapet - the only other plants I remember seeing ina Japanese garden were ferns, bamboo & Peonies, or a water feature. What are your plans so far?
Julie
hi, julie. i'm starting from the ground up. just got bit by the gardening bug.
there's a small rectangular enclosure in the yard that will be my shade garden.
1. i planted some hosta divisions the other day. i hope they happen.
2. i may try to grow ferns and just be patient for it to grow or get a huge one at home depot. some smaller varieties i'll "harvest" in the mountains where my grandpa bob lives.
3. stepping stones (tobi-ishi) will lead to a water basin (tsukubai)
beyond the water basin, a tea garden the following year.
right now i'm growing some:
1. peonies
2. japanese camelia (blooming!)
3. rhododendrons (budding)
for 2005, at the VERY LEAST, i'll do the dry garden:
1. just a sea of pebbles
2. a couple of big rocks
3. bamboo in one corner
thank you all for your time. i am open to suggestions.
JR, I am glad to hear that a cheapie camera will do. The plants will never complain that they don't look like themselves or have gained weight!!!! Right????
Moonglow: As a suggestion on those pebbles in the Japanese garden. The larger the stone, the better it looks. I talking about a 1 1/2' size. I found that the area that had the heaviest barrior for weeds lasted the longest.. Mine is like a black cloth. Also, make sure that you put down enough.....about 2 inches. Both those things will help with the weeds. Also, do not pull up the weeds is they come. Spray with herbicide. When a weed is pulled up it brings soil with it and the soil acts as media for the next seed in the air...........the cycle starts all over again.
I also suggest that you purchase a clumping variety of bamboo or it will go to the next 40 yards or more. Rocks that I have I like, because they are moveable are the living rocks. They must be made from lava or something because they are big but light.
Another plant that looks well in a JG is a papyrus, but again they "walk" . Keep it in a container but planted in the ground.
Are you really able to grow hosta' there? I am in 10b and I do not see any around..
Have fun and keep in touch if you need anything.
Nancy Lee
Nancy Lee, thank you for writing.
Yes, I have grown hostas here before and gave them all to my mom who lives in San Diego. I'll pick up another variety at Costco if they still have them. When they are up and about in spring, I'll take pictures and let me know if you like any. I would love to give you a division or two.
Wow, the papyrus would make a good screen if contained. I'll do my research.
Costco offers a super heavy landscape fabric cheaper and thicker than Home Depot's. I've been holding off, but I should get it now while in season.
Thank you again very much. I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday.
hi Moon
i planted brick around mine :-)
many years ago
Dick
Dick, what a beautiful sago, garden, and home! (We want a virtual tour =).
I gave my 4 leaf Sago palm to my sister last year. You have no idea how wonderful it is to see such a gorgeous big specimen - growing outdoors, too! We New Englanders can only dream of such things... Thanks for the beautiful photo!
Julie
I have 3 in big pots with sagos at the deep end at my swimming pool to keep people from just walking or accidently falling into it. You back your near bare behind up against one of those things they'll get your attention !
Dick,really beautiful hardscape and cycad to go with it.
Moonglow,Palmbob is expert on cycads,but haven't seen him post for awhile.
thanks Robert
i am about to retire & move from here after 28 years in the same spot
i will be 800 miles closer to you just south of the Ore. border on the coast
but i will have 5 acres to play in, i may not put up as much hardscape there :-)
i have several other Cycad species sitting in pots waiting for the move
plus some of the older pups from that old thing in the front yard :-)
BTW: did you get the 200mm macro ?
Dick
Hi Dick,Not yet,but if the furnace can get repaired instead of replaced it might be in the offing.Decided for the 200mm instead of a Canon 20D.I have a serious envy problem with you Cycad growers.I love them,but they are too hard to grow up here in the 'Pungent Sound'. The new digs sound great,a person could get lost in a 5 acre garden,and coastal temps should be pretty mild.
Dayflower,what a neat use for a cycad.An Encephalartos horridus or two would be spectacular.Guess all cycad people have seen Whitelock's "The Cycads",best book on the subject,and illustrated with beautiful drawings by Palmbob.My only Cycads are a couple Cycas petraea seedlings,but they seem happy,so far.
are we talking about cameras now? i will have to be with my nikon coolpix 5700 for a while...
Moon
when we start talking picts of our plants & yards the subject of cameras always comes up :-)
Robert
several years ago when we were looking for our retirement home we were headed for port Angeles to look at some 10 acres on the sound, but got sidetracked & bought in No.Calif. i'm now glad we did.
it is a micro climate zone 9b :-) can almost grow everything i grow here in 10b/11 tropical but will need a greenhouse to help out :-)
Dayflower
i had to move all my cycads in pots away from the pool for that very reason because of the grandchildren
if they were older i think i would put them back for use the same as you do
Moon
didn't mean to hijack
Dick
=) dick, i'm sure you already love northern california.
i like camera talk. please keep on talking.
Robert
i have recently acquired a Cycad that is cold tolerant
maybe you would like to become a cycad owner :-)
http://www.pacsoa.org.au/cycads/Cycas/spWilailak.html
Dick
Dick,that is the only cycad I've had any luck with.Here it is as of today.I'll be glad when it reaches 5 or 6 feet.(in my next lifetime!).The lens should be here this week.
Moonglow,something you have already probably thought of is the Botanical and Oriental Gardens,especially Huntington Gardens.They match cycads with appropriate underplantings,and your thoughts about oriental gardening are a perfect match for cycads.Keep us informed.
I had papyrus at my house in Orange County, CA. I loved it but it grew way too fast and had to pull it. I really like the idea of putting it in a pot. I may just buy another one.
Having owned homes in CA for 30 years ~ the bigest challenge is learning when to pull plants and start over. I have some beautiful pygmy palm out front and in the parking along the side of the house and even though they are slow growers ~ it won't be long before they will need to be pulled and start over.
At the other house, a neighbor has two old palm trees that are cracking our wall; we'll need to deal with that soon.
I have three sago's in pots that are about 20 years old. When you repot them a size bigger it seems like they don't do much for awhile. Maybe they like being rootbound?
regards, everyone
hi Arlene
you have a home in city of Orange don't you ?
i seem to remember a pictorial you did ripping out all the plants in the back yard
how about an update pict what it looks like now :-)
i have my papyrus contained in a planter & i rip some of it out periodically for something new :-)
here is a little bit of what Fountain Valley is like :-) http://www.strever.com/FV/
don't you miss our tropical weather in the winter time ?
Dick
Great garden Dick,but what is the big white tube in the light blue framework?
Robert
that is a 14" F7.5 reflecting telescope
that is useless here because of light pollution
Dick
