I am totally confused. I live in Tucson Az. slight freezes sometimes in winter. Blazing hot summers. Which brugs could I order that I could plant outside unprotected? Totally fascinated by these plants. Received a couple of garden catalogs recently that had brugs for sale, white yellow and pink. One catalog didn't even give the names. They called them "Angel Trumpets." Could I grow those?
which brugs to order?
How hot do you get? You might be able to grow them, but if it is too hot you might not get the blooms and color that we get in cooler climates. The blooms also tend to wilt if it gets too hot and many times they don't come back from the "dead". However, it never hurts to try and find out and then you will be able to tell others if it works or not. I'd be happy to send you a few seeds to try. Nothing special, just critter pollinated seeds. You have mail.
Brugie, you are right! The heat and wind down here sure does a number on them, but in winter and spring we have lots of flowers(except in crazy winters like this when it SNOWED for the first time in a hundred years).
There used to be a member in Arizona(either Tucson or Phoenix) and she grew brugs. I think her name was Maggie, but not sure. Roadrunner grows brugs and she's in southeast AZ.
I remember late winter/early spring in Phoenix, I loved it, everything was so green and the weather was perfect! I might have to take a road trip if I keep thinking about it, lol.
Shirely, what do you consider too too hot? Not a good idea to have them in a South exposure this summer? Our temps here average 30 degrees Celsius normally in June, July, August, often hitting 35. That would be 85 to 90 degrees farenheit. 35 =95F.
OldFlowerGirl, you are farther north, the sun isn't as strong there as it is in the southern and southwestern U.S. (because of the angle of the earth to the sun) so your plants should be fine.
Thank you Calalily. I know, my roses, and rhodos seem to like the heat so I just assumed that Brugs would too. I am starting some Red Sanguinea x Red Sanguinea seeds and I have heard that they like a little more shade, so I thought I'd maybe put those ones on the northside of house that gets east sun very early and west sun very late in the afternoon.
Here in zone 5, when the temps get over 95 degrees, the brugs suffer during the day. Most of them will perk back in the evening, but they are pretty sad looking during the day.
Brugie, I can't imagine your brugs ever looking sad, yours always look so great but I know what you mean about the heat making them limp. I think the wind here just waits till mine start blooming, then it blows 90MPH(I know, that's exagerating, lol). I'll have my camera ready to take a picture of my pretty flowers and look out the door and there they go across the yard, blown off the plant by the wind! Mine didn't bloom much in July and August, guess it was just too hot and windy.
Yep, some are really sad sacks, but all in all, they did well last summer. We were a lot cooler last year. The year before, everything just burned up.
What exposure do you have your Brugs in Shirley?
Every kind there is, but the majority of them are in full sun all day. I live in the country on three acres, so they are placed in and around my yard and veggie garden. It takes at least 150 ft. of hose to reach all of them. I have them up around the house and back yard mostly. Some grow under the maple trees in pots and get just a little bit of sun each day. Some get half day sun. My arborea gets only dappled sun. To be honest with you, those in very little sun bloom just as well as those in full sun, if not better. I know they like heat, but direct sun can be a real problem.
OK, thanks for that tip. Definitely changed the plans I had for them this summer. I thought they liked sun. I was going to put them in the front of my house which faces south and gets sunshine 12 hours a day for July & August. I know my roses and geraniums love it, but maybe I'd better try putting them where they get partial sun through the day and they'll stilll get the heat anyway.
If your temps don't get over 90 and stay there, you can probably grow them in full sun with no problems. 85 would be better, but we can't determine the daily temps. LOL! Here we get so hot sometimes that the blooms will actually cook.
I guess all I can do is experiment. And keep my eyes peeled!
Liz and Brugcrazy live in BC, so maybe they will come along and give you some pointers on how much sun they should have up there Oldflowergirl.
Thanks Calalily. I know Liz and Jeanne well through our Canadian trading forum. Unfortunately, they can't help too much as they live on the coast, while I live in the southern Interior of British Columbia, where it gets very hot during the summer. We have a lovely long growing season similar to the gals on the coast, but they have a lot more temperate summers, never very often going much over 75 Farenheit. In the interior we can be 10-20 degrees hotter than they are from June to September. I am only a couple hours North of Spokane Washington, if that helps you figure out where I am situated. Beautiful country with lovely mountains and warm clear lakes. I love it!
I have decided with the help of Brugie and others, that I'll put my Brugs on a coaster platform and start them on the South side of my house for April, May and June and then come July and August when the temps are constant, I'll wheel them around to the North side and find a corner by the pond and under some Birch and Maple trees I have there. They should be fine. I am gonna just have to experiment the first year. Donna
Donna, that sounds like a good plan.
I'm coming in late on this thread, but I want to add that the majority of my seedlings were grown last summer in full (South Texas) sun and did great. I only had a couple that wilted from the heat, and they bloomed much better than those in the shade.
Thank you for that Gretchen. I feel a little more confident now.
Donna -- you're welcome. I should have added that mine are/were in the ground, watered with soaker hoses on an automatic system... I think they are better able to handle the heat when removed from their pot and planted in the earth. Good luck with yours!!!
Thanks Gretchen.That was one of my questions as a newbie Brug grower, Pot or Bed? I have heard they do so much better in the ground, as do so many other plants such as dahlias, etc. Just as matter of digging them up again in the fall, here in my zone, I guess.
Donna -- I dug up the ones that I wanted to keep (there were only a few because I mostly took cuttings, but since they were seedlings and I didn't know how hard it would be to get cuttings started) and they did fine. After I dug them up and potted them, I treated them like a cutting and removed all the leaves. They bounced right back. I also took some very long (6') cuttings of some seedlings and they are now 6' potted trees. I figured the new growth would sprout much lower, so I'm really happily amazed that it worked out like it did...
Good to know Gretchen, thanks. I'll definitely follow your lead. You have been very helpful and it's much appreciated. :Donna
only1joanie, I saw these 3 colors in the michigan bubl cataloge, all for 9,99. My experience with then has not been the greatest, They do replace for a lifetime but the plants and the bulbs are so small that it takes years for the bulbs to flower, The plants are probably seedlings.
If you wait around to fall some one will be offering cuttings.
Good Luck,
Sandy
Where did Joanie go? It's been over a week since she posted. Hope she is okay.
I hope we didn't scare her off :-o
She did email me yesterday to tell me she had received an envelope I sent, so she is okay.
Oh good!
Hi, everybody! I'm not lost. Just working a lot, shift work. Shirley, thanks again for your generous gift of the seeds. I offered her a couple of seed pods (from my yet unplanted) new datura metaloides but she doesn't have room. I think the seeds are in the spikey pods and not fallen out. Whoever would be interested in them, I will be glad to share them. By the way, how do you plant the brug seeds. Something I heard was that you nick the edge of the seed? Soak them? You can tell I'm new to this site. I have a tree datura that has been in my house for a couple of years. Is that a brugmansia? I finally moved it outside on the patio, and it seems a lot happier. It didn't like it inside with the teenagers yelling at each other. Prefers the dogs barking, I think.
Joanie, you can peel the seeds before soaking them for a day or you can soak them and plant them on top of the soil, pressed in so they make good contact. Before planting anything, sterilize your soil by pouring boiling water through it. Cool the soil. Once planted, put the pot of soil and seeds inside a plastic bag and tie it shut. Make sure you tape the name to the pot or put a plant tag in the pot saying what cross it is.
Glad you are back.