Well it's blooming in the house. Still ratty looking but a pretty bloom.
datura
It's still blooming though, very pretty robinz :) I was going to name my little girl Robin but I changed my mind at the last minute. Very pretty name.
Julie
Thanks. My mom is around here somewhere. She gets the credit. :)
Robin
how pretty
bloom looks bgger than the plant
beautiful color
Pretty cool Rob. It looks like it's singing. mom
That's wild looking! You might want to feed it. Looks like it could maybe use a shot of something all-purpose. Just a thought to try to green up the leaves :)
This message was edited Dec 10, 2004 9:46 PM
Yea, I started it on fertilizer a while ago and I think that's why it's blooming but nothing has gone to the leaves. As soon as it's done blooming I'm going to pinch off any buds that appear and see if I can get the plant growth going.
Rob
These are so pretty! I really like your picture.
Well, it is a cool looking plant! Maybe the leaves have changed due to the shorter days. It may not enjoy staying alive during the winter, since its an annual, but pinching off the buds may prolong it so you will have some additional enjoyment. Have fun with it!
I was wondering if the yellowing could be from spider mites. Those little buggers can cause so much trouble. The bloom is very pretty. I hope it got jiggled enough that it pollinated itself and you will have a seed pod full of seeds for next summer.
Brugie
It did have mites for awhile. I thought I got rid of them all but maybe your right. Maybe it still has some. I'll spray it again.
I didn't know they were self polinators.
Robin
Yep, datura are self pollinating, but brugs aren't unless you have the more uncommon arborea or sang.
Robin, I love your Datura, so please tell us more about it.
Does it have a name? Did you grow it from seed? If so where did you get these seeds, I want some. If you bought it as a plant, from where? I want to know everything.
Judy
Judy I grew it from seed late last summer. I have an unheated gh and put it in there when it first started getting cold this fall but then brought it in the house just to see if it would keep going. Then it got bugs. I thought I had that licked so I started fertilizing it and this is what I have now.
As for what kind well, I mixed up the tags but I only have 4 kinds of seeds (from ebay last spring) and they are Datura Metel Devil's trumpet, Datura Metel Double Triple, Datura ruba Redish Cream and Black Current Swirl Datura. So if anyone knows which one it might be I'd actually like to know. I think some of those seeds are the same thing with different names.
Robin
here is a picture of black currant swirl, if this helps you at all:
PS -- if mites are your problem, common spider mites just need to be sprayed off with water. They drown very easily, as long as you can get them all. You may have to douse them a few consecutive days to get rid of all of them...
Do you by chance have the ebay vendor information? I would like to contact them in regard to getting seeds.
Judy
I think a lot of us forget that our plants don't get bugs in the house. It has been my experience, and I am not an entomologist, or whatever, but I think what happens is that the spider mites lay their eggs in the plants and probably soil, in the summer outside.
When the plants are brought into the house, a warm, dry environment, the atmosphere accelerates hatching the eggs. And, I also think with no air circulation they tend to spread to the rest of the plants.
I am going to put a small fan on my plants. I think they are too crowded.
Jeanette
Robin...ditto on I wanted to name my first born daughter Robin too...I love the name!
I also love your photo...it looks like one of the old fashion prints to me! Even with the yellow leaves! I really like the way the light falls on the bloom!
Very pretty!
Margie -- that was my first thought -- it does look like one of those old fashioned Botanical prints. I love those!
Thanks to everyone who liked my pic. I just stuck it in front a white wall so it would show up.
Judy I have no clue who I bought from. I'm not even sure which set of seeds this came out of.
Robin
Hi Robin, You have Datura metel there, the double/triple purple kind usually refered to as Datura metel var fastuosa. I grow these as annuals because they look terrible over the winter, and if they do manage to survive, they don't do well the following spring and summer. Even the short-lived perennial daturas, such as Datura wrightii and Datura innoxia, are best treated as annuals. They grow so easily from seed that it is not worth the fuss of keeping them alive over the winter. If they get chlorosis, you can treat them with Iron Chelate. I had a terrible time with leaf minors this past summer. They made the leaves look just awful.
I think it looks alot like a piece of artwork! VERY nice!
Oh, Clare_CA thank you for all the information. I think maybe your right and after it gets done blooming I'll dump it. Besides I could use the pot. :) Never enough pots. Your picture is beautiful. I think I'll try again with these most definatly this spring. Maybe chlorsis is the reason the leaves are so yellow.
Judy, now we know what it is. I still have no idea which vender I bought it from.
Robin
Sure, Robin! I never have enough pots either! I didn't get many seeds this year or else I would offer you some. BGI has them for free if you are a member. Here is a list of companies that sell Datura seeds: http://davesgarden.com/ps/search.php?search_text=datura+metel&submit=Search
Fabulous photo! I skipped right over this thread - thought it was a print!
Good job! (Both on growing your little beauty and on your photography!)
Thank you Clare but I still have few seeds left. I just didn't know which detura seed it was until you told me. :) Now when I grow it again I'll know what to expect. This is the first Datura I've every grown.
Robin
Robin, I compiled a list of all daturas previously and posted it for you below. I'm not an expert by any means so forgive me if I have made a mistake. Also below is a picture of what might be Datura metel var rubra that I grew for the first time this past summer. This plant only put out single flowers.
The following was taken directly from the book by Ulrike and Hans-Georg Preissel, Brugmansia and Datura, Angel's Trumpets and Thorn Apples and credit should be given to them for this information.
Datura stramonium (funnel-shaped small flowers with five sharp peaks; flowers are white- to creamy-colored or violet)
Datura stramonium var stramonium
Datura stramonium var stramonium f. stramonium
Datura stramonium var stramonium f. labilis
Datura stramonium var inermis
Datura stramonium var tatula
Datura stramonium var tatula f. tatula (has violet coloring in the center of the flower corolla)
Datura stramonium var tatula f. bernhardii
Datura stramonium var godronii
Datura ferox (five-peak small 2- to 2 1/2-inch flower of yellowish white; the flower usually does not open completely)
Datura quercifolia (oak-like foliage leaves; unremarkable small violet flowers with five short peaks; the flowers do not open completely)
Datura inoxia (flowers measure four inches across, are funnel-shaped, and are pure white; greenish veins end in five longer peaks)
Datura wrightii (flowers measure five inches across and are five to nine inches long; the upper section is usually violet to pale violet and have five peaks)
Datura ceratocaula (10-peak flower with inner sides of white to violet-pink and outersides have a bluish coloring.)
Datura discolor (One of the largest of the datura flowers; ten-peak flower with white upper section and a dark ring-shaped color of pale to dark violet in the center)
Datura metel (flowers are white or yellow or violet to red; fruits have conical humps)
Datura metel var metel (flowers are simple, white and double)
Datura metel var muricata (white flowers)
Datura metel var chlorantha (yellow flowers)
Datura metel var rubra (single flowers)
Datura metel var rubra f. rubra (single violet flowers)
Datura metel var rubra f. sanguinea (single red flowers)
Datura metel var obscura (flowers are single, violet or red)
Datura metel var obscura f. obscura (single violet)
Datura metel var obscura f. atropurpurea (single red)
Datura metel var fastuosa (outer portion of flowers are violet or red; inner portion is white)
Datura metel var fastuosa f. fastuosa (outer portion of flowers is violet)
Datura metel var fastuosa f. malabarica (outer portion is red)
Datura leichhardtii (ten-peaked small inconspicuous yellowish white flower, which do not open completely)
Datura leichhardtii ssp. pruninosa
Datura leichhardtii ssp. leichhardtii
Classification Key:
sec. = sectio, section
ssp. = sub-species
var = varietas, variety
f. = forma, form
WOW Clare. I'm going to copy this and print it out so I can keep track. I'm going to buy that book after Christmas. Lots of usful information from the sounds of it.
My mom sent me a picture this afternoon and from your information it sounds like it is the Datura ceratocaula. I'd really like to have some of those. I had no idea there were so many different kinds.
The picture is great. I have some of those seeds but I didn't get any to germinate. I'm going to try again in the spring. Glad to know what it should look like. :)
Thank you
Robin
Robin, You are very welcome. I have the Dr. Preissel book, and you are right that there is a lot of useful information in it. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1552095584/qid=1102904145/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-2491342-5102259
The Datura ceratocaula is a pretty rare form, I think. Mostly in circulation and commericially available are D. wrightii, D. inoxia, D. metel (in double/triple yellow, double/triple purple, and double white), and D. stramonium. The D. metel var. rubra is also somewhat rare.
I have some extra D. stramonium var tatula, D. metel double/triple yellow, and D. inoxia seeds if you want them. Just send me a PM, and we can do a SASE if you would like them.