Hoya Noid

Saint Petersburg, FL(Zone 9b)

I picked up this hoya today......It was labeled as H. meridithii but it looks totally different from the Hoya meridithii I already have. I should be patient and wait for the bloom but if someone can shed some light on what I have, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Nice hoya ric, but can't help you. You may have to wait until it blooms to be sure and then post the flowers. I'll be watching though .... Thanks for posting it.

Christine.

This message was edited Nov 20, 2004 6:21 PM

Saint Petersburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Here is a close up of a leaf. Thanks...Ric

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Hey, Ric...that looks like H. callistophylla to me...one of the two clones of it that I have. Are the leaves quite "cardboardy"? BTW - H. callistophylla likes lots of water, I have been told.

Another BTW - H. meredithii is not the valid name...it is H. vitellinoides (according to Ms. Christine Burton - and I give her a lot of credit for knowing her labels). H. vitellinoides has much bigger, lighter colored leaves that sort of undulate, right?

Hope this helps.

Carol

Knoxville, TN

What a beautiful find, Ric!
I do not have a clue other than an uneducated guess.
I feel pretty confident that it is not H. meredithii. Both my meredithii and aff. meredithii have pinnate veigns. When I first looked at your photo, it screamed H. aff. finlaysonii...but...it does not seem to match my description or plant. Could it be a cultivar?
I can tell you that I really like the leaves. Love that dark veination and that Hoya would have come home with me in a New York second!

Long Beach, CA

Are the backs of the leaves "fuzzy"? The one I have labled H. callistophylla Has fuzzy texture to the backs of the leaves.
Marcy

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

This is from my files:

Oooops, sorry....gotta convert pics to correct format.

Be back soon.

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Ok, let's see if this works. This photo was sent to me by Chris Burton (with much appreciation) -

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Here is the other clone, used as the type in the publication. Both are H. callistophylla, different clones.

Edited to give credit to Christine Burton who sent me the photo.

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Knoxville, TN

Ah yes, Looks like Carol hit the nail on the head! I have had the worst luck with H. callistophylla. I have had one plant for 2 years, which has been cut down and re-rooted until it is now 2 leaves sticking out of a pot. It seems to have been a bad cut from the start. Have you guys noticed that some cuttings are just doomed from the start and others thrive?

Meltn, I've noticed that cuttings taken from older vines on a hoya won't do as well. Maybe that's the problem?

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Mel - it IS a slow grower, at first...but, for me, it takes off fast. It seems to like a moist fast draining soil and lots of "rain"...

Saint Petersburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Thanks ceedub.........I really get exited when a hoya i'm not sure of, starts to bloom. I will post a pic as soon as It does.

Carol and Mel, thanks so much! H.callistophylla it is. It's really a winner for foliage.

Mairzee...I'll get back to you on the fuzzyness od the back of the leave.

Thanks to all for the great input as always.

-ric

Long Beach, CA

Woops....I goofed. The one with the fuzzy leaves on the back is a globulosa. I just checked the other one & it's leaves are not fuzzy. Sorry.
Marcy

Valley Village, CA

Ceedub, I've seen cuttings taken from a very old vine. Doing very well, they were even bald vines. However, they were under a mister, and had bottom heat. They are now being sold at the Huntington Gardens. Not by mail, just at their sales. I couldn't believe that they actually leafed out. I did not do the cuttings my boss did.
After they rooted, which was very quickly, I potted them up for our annual sale, this was an old plant of H. latifolia 'loyceandrewsiana' T. Green given to us from Seymour Linden, this was the same plant I sent out to friends, 2 years ago Oct . Now I don't know if this will work with other species, I don't have enough experience. Norma

Thanks Norma, I never did understand why this could happen, maybe there were other factors involved. Others I've seen have had no problems at all. Also, I took 6 cuttings from an enormous noid not long ago - all new growth - 5 rooted quickly and are now planted, the other still hasn't sent out a single root. Leaves are still green. Maybe its just the "luck of the draw".
Christine.

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

I have had success with bald vines (no leaves) IF the age of the vine is right...old woody growth can be so, so, sooooooooo slow even with leaves. H. cv. Ruthie is the only hoya that will put out roots on new NEW growth for me... As for what is new? I figure fully formed leaves make the vine fair game...and I cut off the newest growth not to tax the plant...

Hey, are we off subject?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

Carol

LOL Norma ... I figured since I was talking about a noid, it was okay to wander off just a touch ...

Happy Thanksgiving to all my American Hoya-thusiasts!!

Christine.

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