Actually an Okie ? here, but hoping I won't be stoned ;-)

Modi'in, Israel

I was trying to explain to someone here about rose rocks. But couldn't quite make them understand how cool they are. Do any of you have any good rose rock specimens you could take pics of and post here so I could show this person what I mean? Thanks :-)

-Julie

McKinney, TX(Zone 8a)

Rose Rocks?? What are those? Are they the sandstone rocks in Oklahoma that look pink?

McKinney, TX(Zone 8a)

Wait I found them I think. Is this it? http://www.joelobell.com/roserock/roserock.html

Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Hey everybody.....come on over here and help me stone this okie....LOL

I'm STILL laughing about you reading those "You might be a Yankee if lines to your DH...... LOL

Modi'in, Israel

Yup, that's it Sweezel. Thanks! How'd you find that link? Even the OK State gov site doesn't have pics that good! :-) Now aren't they cool?!?!? :-)

-Julie

Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Julie,

sweezel found it on accounta SHE'S a TEXAN! LOL

McKinney, TX(Zone 8a)

LMBO PP! hehehe

I just googled Rose Rocks. Google is the best!!

Modi'in, Israel

Well, to be quite honest, I didn't do a search online. I was too lazy. I thought maybe some of you had better pics than the Okie State site had. ;-)

Pville, what's really funny is that although I USED to have a relatively thick accent sometimes people don't even know what country I'm from anymore. I've just been around people from every English speaking country in the world for so long now and my voice has soaked it up like a sponge... and now I've got an "international" accent ;-). But I can still sound like a hick (just teasing!) when I want ;-).

My best friend in 11th grade was from Fort Worth. Our other friends and I would take any opportunity we could to make her say "my" "fire", "tire", "ice" or "Forth Worth". And I STILL crack myself up if I think about her saying them. She was a good sport though and would even obligingly say for our amusement "My tires are on fire...I need some ice. I'm from Fort Worth."

Must stop now. giggling getting out of control.

-Julie

(Zone 8b)

Those rose rocks look just like the ones found in the Chot el Jerid in Tunisia, they call theirs Desert Roses. The Chot is a huge, salt, lake that is dried out almost completely. I would suspect that they could also be found in the earth under the Dead Sea - so you may have some in your new home too Salvia Lover!!

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Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Julie,

My background is almost the exact opposite. I was born in Germany and came to the states as a child so German was my first language and we continued to speak German for many years at home as my mother, and particularly my grandmother, never really became comfortable and profecient in English. On trips I have made back to Germany as an adult the Germans never new quite what to make of me. I spoke with all the coloquialisms and slang they were use to in that part of Germany but to them I had a distinctly American accent.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 7b)

Sorry, somebody beat me to it. I actually HAVE 2 rose rocks. I am from northern Okla, but a TXN now.

(Zone 8b)

I think this is also a relative of those roses. This is the Tufa rock that forms in Lake Mono, just in California, in the Sierra on the Nevada border.

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Modi'in, Israel

Okus, I'd really be interested to see if there is anything similar formed here from the minerals in the Dead Sea. The Oklahoma rose rocks though are formed by crystalized barite. I'm going to risk soundign really stupid here, but I've never even heard of Lake Mono. COOL rock formationS! Thanks for adding that here! :-)

Pville...wie geht's? Ich hab' zwei Jahre in Berlin gewohnt - von 1992-1994. Obwohl damals habe ich sehr gute deutsch gesprochen, leider ist mein deutsch furchtbar peinlich jetzt. ;-) Wie auf deutsch sagen, wenn ich auf deutsch spreche, fuehle ich mich als ob ich Kartoffeln im Mund habe ;-). Berlin ist eine echt geile Stadt!

Mel, where are you from in Oklahoma? I'm originally from Bartlesville :-)

-Julie





(Zone 8b)

Hi Salvia,
We hadn't heard of Mono lake either! We found it by accident. We were on a 9 state tour and visited the ghost town at Bodie, prior to driving through the Tioga Pass, which is the back door into Yosemite, and found Mono Country! http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=514 is a link to the relevant site for details on the lake.
Incidentally if you haven't done it, the Tioga Pass is really something. I think it was my favourite part of the trip. We went through in mid May 2 days after it opened and it was still very quiet, don't know what it is like in Summer, but the high alpine meadows were gorgeous even that early. It ranks with the Bristlecone Pines and the Redwoods as the highlight of our trip.
Admire your German! Mine is now very rusty but was reasonable, if colloquial. We lived in Gutersloh for 3 years in the early 70s and it hasn't had many outings since, but I find it gets me by in places where English won't, like rural areas of Greece, and what used to be Yugoslavia.

Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Guten morgen Julie,
Ich wahr im Mannheim geboren aber nie wahr Ich zu Schule in Deutchland. Dawohl my Geschreiben ist furschbar. Nur meine Spechung is gut und das is nuhr mit keine Kartoffeln im Mund LOL

Modi'in, Israel

What?! You don't speak with your mouth full Pville? Shocking! ;-) Have you been to Berlin? I absolutely love that city!!!! I sure wish I could go back there for a looooong vacation some day!

-Julie

Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Nope...haven't been to Belin. That is pretty much the other of Germany from where I am from and they talk really funny there :-)

(Zone 8b)

That probably explaind why I'm always asked if i come from Berlin when I'm speaking German then. :>)

Modi'in, Israel

ROTFLMAO And you think that people in Mannheim don't talk funny? ;-) Some of my best friends in Germany were from Stuttgart. My DH might think it's funny to hear me using an Okie or Texas accent, but my friends from Stuttgart would speak in Schwaebisch and I'd totally crack up. Some of the words are just hilarious to someone who only speaks High German. Not to mention that I honestly didn't understand much of anything they said ;-). But yes, people from Berlin definitely have a rough language. I think they get made fun of (by other Germans) even more than those from Munich ;-). Have you ever heard of the "berliner Schnautze"?

-Julie

Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Hey now! You ain't herd nuttin til ya herd Schwaebich with a Texas accent! Is a berliner Schnautze somebody with Schnot in da Schnaunt? LOL

(Zone 8b)

small b on berliner - doesn't that make it a hamburger of sorts?

Modi'in, Israel

just a typo okus. Actually it has to do with using "ein" before Berliner that changes the meaning.

ein Berliner = jelly doughnut
Berliner = someone from Berlin

Pville....I've heard it. One of my so-and-so many cousins so-and-so many times removed married a woman from somewhere near Offenbach. She came with him to the US in the early 70s. Our family taught her all they knew about talking like a hick ;-) (as we are very accomplished in this area ;-) and thus, what was produced as an end result was very entertaining ;-)

Schnautze is the word for a dog's muzzle....and Berliner Schnautze is the way in which people from Berlin tend to bark at everyone as a normal form of discourse (think of how a Schnautzer dog likes to "yip yip" at everything it sees). For example, go to a wienerschnitzel stand or a pub in Berlin and before you have a chance to think about what you want the person working there will bark out at you "Was willst Du?!" or "Ja!?!?!" with an expression that says you are completely wasting their time (rather than "Was moechten Sie?") to which one replies "Gib' mir...." (rather than "Ich haette die Chips gern danke") ... and this is considered acceptable communication in Berlin ;-). So "der Berliner Schnautze" refers to the very brusque manner of people from Berlin.

Just a bit more trivia....this Berliner Schnautze is "excused" with the explanation that since Berlin was cut off geographically from the rest of West Germany for so long, those who lived there necessarily had to live "on the defensive" due to the constant threat of being invaded or annexed by East Germany.

-Julie

Pflugerville, TX(Zone 8b)

Sounds about right......Ein Schwaebisher is the German equivalent of a Texan. Ein Berliner is the German equivalent of a New Yorker :-)

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

The barite rose rock is the official state rock of Oklahoma and a Cherokee legend states that the rocks represent the blood of the braves and the tears of the maidens who made the "Trail of Tears" journey to Oklahoma in the 1800s. There is form of gypsum that is called "Desert Rose" or "Rock Rose" and has a similar form. Quiz: without looking it up, what is the state rock of Texas?

Modi'in, Israel

htop....I'm hoping your info was for the benefit of the rest of the Texans ;-). Surely you don't think I, being an Okie, wouldn't know all of that! I've never been so insulted in all my...oh, wait....nope, I have been more insulted ROTFLMAO

Haven't got a clue what the state rock of Texas is. I'm gonn guess....um....limestone (why? it's the first rock that came to my head).

-Julie

McKinney, TX(Zone 8a)

Limestone is what I thought of too Julie. Kinda boring though. I really have no idea, but I am about to go check.

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

petrified palmwood
http://www.jewelrymall.com/stategems.html

McKinney, TX(Zone 8a)

And John, did ya cheat? :P

I looked it up after my answer was given and all I have to say is "Huh?". I had never heard of it.

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

Yes, if googling is cheating!

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

My real guess was limestone. :-P

(Zone 8b)

Well I wouldn't have got that in a million years!! My first guess was granite, then I decided it was watever rock it is that clay becomes eventually! LOL

Modi'in, Israel

petrified palmwood......I knew you Texans were weird! ;-)

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

salvia_lover, my post about the barite rose rock was for those who are not Okies and/or those who did not know much about it. I surely did not mean to insult you. I do not make a habit of insulting people. I apologize for doing so. My Mother has property in Norman, Oklahoma and my cousin lives in Oklahoma so I knew about the beautiful rose rock. Being part native American and interested in Native America foklore, I added that fact. Desert Rose" or "Rock Rose" gypsum can be found in Texas and sometimes people confuse it with he barite rock rose.

After having searched for and collected petrified wood all over the Cotulla area until I entered college, I never knew petrified palmwood is the state rock of Texas nor that states even had state rocks until just recently. I would have guessed limestone or granite.

Modi'in, Israel

htop, I'm so sorry you took my post seriously. I was truly only joking. The bad part of virtual messaging...one can't see the gleam in another's eye. I really am sorry. I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I'll try to be more careful in future.

I'm also part Nat. Amer. 1/4 Blackfoot....but no one would know to look at me. Unfotunately my family long ago decided it was best to assimilate and pretend they weren't Nat. American. So none of the culture was passed down to my generation.

-Julie

San Antonio, TX(Zone 8b)

Whew! I am glad to know you were joking! I feel better now. Thanks. :o) You don't need to be more careful. I need to be less serious.

My grandmother once told us that we were kin to Sitting Bull. We thought that she was just assuming this because "Bull" is an English name ( we knew about our English/Scot/Irish ancesters). But after doing an ancestral search a couple of years ago, I found out that sure 'nuff she was correct. This search cleared up the family mystery as to why my Mother was deeded part ownership of land in Oklahoma.

We were are all blonde and blue-eyed kids, but one of my brothers and I have olive skin which tans very easily unlike my other brothers who are fair skinned. When I used to sunbathe a lot, I would be mistaken for being Spanish. (That sunbathing has caused me to have to have lots of skin cancers removed these past years.) Since I was a young child, I having always been drawn to the earth and its flora and fauna and anything about Native American culture. In fact I have a theme room that I call my "Indian Room" that is decorated with Indian paintings, pottery and artifacts that I have found while searching for arrowheads. I decorated it this way before I really knew of my Native American heritage which I find very strange. Maybe my Native American genes have been calling to me all of these years. :o)

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