This is one of my Passiflora that opened a few day's ago, the day before we had 5 straight day's of rain here in San Diego.
This is Passiflora Macrocarpa
Passiflora Macrocarpa
I posted the picture and forgot to talk more about it. This is a plant which has much confusion surrounding it. Many of you may have plants labeled as P. 'Warmlands' or P. 'Blue Moon', and I believe the P. 'Lowlands' falls into this catagory. Anyhow, There was this vine that was re-discovered here in southern cal, and being that this person was told it was a type of Quadrangularis, which of course, we all know Quadrangularis are not blue, he name it P. 'Warmlands' since he was the one that brought it to recognition. After much discussion, it turns out that this is actually a true species called P. Marcrocarpa which are capable of producing fruits nearly as large as those of the P. Quadrangularis.
Mark
I must get one of these ASAP! I've seen one offered on the Logee's website, but never bought it because I figured it couldn't possibly be that blueish, but after seeing your picture I'm going to order it.
Thanks for the great picture:-)
That is very nice. I started this year collecting passies and finally got fruit on my vitifolia.. and a few others are now fruiting. Hopefully they will develop before it gets too cold out here.
You have some very nice passies there. Thanks for sharing. Now I have to go see the Logee's site thanks to Indigoez...lol.
I have one too, and I noticed that Logee's corrected the name to P. Marcrocarpa now. Mark, what zone are you in? Are you going to leave yours outside? I am in zone 10, and mine died last winter when temps dipped below 45. I got another one from Logee's, and I'm planning on bringing it inside this winter before temps dip below 45. Here is a picture from last year:
Mark, is yours in a container or in the ground? Mine is in a container so I can bring it in in the winter.
I couldn't find it in logees, but ordered three others I wanted. What an addiction.. Clare, you have some beautys too. Antoinette
LOL, Antoinette! Thanks! Which ones did you get? Logee's must have run of it, but they have it in their printed catelog. You could try calling customer service to see if you can order it.
Lady Margaret
Purple Haze
and
Quadrangularis'Low
They are gorgeous.. I may have to call customer service.. and get one more .lol..
Antoinette! Quadrangularis "Lowlands" IS this one! It is the same as Passiflora Macrocarpa. Read Mark's explanation in the original post. Logee's called it "Warmlands" first and then "Lowlands" before changing it to its proper name of Passiflora Macrocarpa!
Congrats on your others. I have P. Lady Margaret as well, and she is lovely.
Edited to say: After seeing Mark's flower on his vine, I wondered if my vine would be flowering this time of year, and sure enough, I've got a bud!
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Clare, couple of answers for you. First of all, I have one plant that actually overwintered in the ground this past winter, but it was a pretty mild winter where I am. That one oddly enough has bloomed for me. I have one 5 footer in a pot and also have about 20 seedlings in a pot that are now about 1 1/2 feet tall. As far as the plant originally being called warmlands, that was a greenhouse here in Southern Cal that put out that name.
Mark
Thanks, Mark. It should be interesting to see what your seedlings do. I think I heard that the seeds do come true to the parent. I heard the story and read some documents about the history of "Warmlands." Oops! But, oh well. Stuff happens. I'm going to keep my warm this winter because I do not want to lose this one again.
Oh I think I ordered the wrong thing.. Kartuz has one of each listed as P. Quadrangularis and P. Macrocarpa (I ordered both) when you have a chance take a look at their online catalog, they have both listed and it seems like they are different passies the way they list them.
Logees was out of Lady Margaret and Kartuz was out of p. Susan Brigham.
I did receive Purple Haze and a p. macrocarpa from Logees whichi has a couple of buds on it already.
Antoinette, you are right that P. macrocarpa and P. quadrangularis are different at Kartuz. P. macrocarpa "Warmlands" is the same at Logee's and at Kartuz. It's the purple flower that Mark posted above and that I posted. I have a bud too and can't wait for it to bloom. You have your P. macrocarpa protected from cold, right? I don't think it can take temperatures below 45.
Hi Clare, right now they are on my kitchen counter. The temps here have been in the low 50's and don't know if they are lower during the weee early mornings lately. Are you taking all your passies inside for the winter? And, at what temps do you take your's inside? My Alata Ruby Glow has buds on it also, hoping that they don't fall off or that something happens to them.
When you do take them in, do you trim them down? I was going to leave them all outside on one side of the house where they are sort of protected, but at the same time, they still get the winds and cold somewhat. If they survive, then it is good for me. So far the Incense and Careula survived from last year (I thought they were gone), but they came up this year and bloomed for the first time after my roofrat disaster.
Hi Antoinette, I check Accuweather.com every night and check the past 24 hours. Here's the link: http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/local_index.asp?zipcode=93010&partner=accuweather Just put in your zip code to find your local temperature around the clock.
Last year, I lost my P. macrocarpa "Warmlands" as soon as the temperature hit 45. I had replanted it late in the summer, and it didn't have time to get reestablished before the cold hit. This time, I'm not taking any chances. I bought a portable greenhouse from Harbor Freight Tools. Here's a link: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41334 The dimensions are actually wrong on the Internet, and it is actually 8' by 10'. I'm going to put my P. "Warmlands" in it as well as a bunch of other sensitive plants. The ones that are sensitive shouldn't experience any temps in the 40's so when it dips below 50, I start bring stuff inside. This year, I won't have to as soon as I set up my greenhouse.
My P. alata is just finishing blooming and gave me one last bud today. It is a little late for yours to be blooming now, but you should get to see some before it gets really cold. You might even have flowers through November provided it doesn't get too cold at night.
P. Caerula and P. Incense are hardy in your area, and "Ruby Glow" may have some dieback but will also come through fine. I wouldn't cut them back unless you have to. If you can wrap the vine around the support then you can save a lot of vine.
Other than my P. macrocarpa "Warmlands," all my other Passifloras are in the ground. Most of them are too big to dig up so I think I will have to give them the tough love approach and hope they make it through the winter. I may throw something over them when it dips into the high 30's.
Mine finally bloomed in my greenhouse, but I picked the flower so I could photograph it.
Here's another picture. The fragrance is nice but not quite as nice as "Ruby Glow."
I killed mine when I moved. I'm going to have to go to Logees site. I try to stay away from there, lol.
I know what you mean, Susie. They have so many lovely plants and vines. I killed this vine once last winter, so I had to get another too. This one, I'm keeping above 50.
I bet that's what happened to mine, it got too cold.
Congrats on the flower Clare!:-)
I forgot to add that I agree with trying to stay away from logee's, but they just sent me a holiday catalog, so I at least have to go to the website to check it out:-)
Thanks:-) Yes, I think Logee's is great. I am grateful that they are in business because otherwise it would be difficult to find some of these plants and vines.
Clare, just curious, is your flower as blue as mine was? They sell theirs as Lowlands and was just curious if it is the same thing. Do they still call it that?
Mark
Mark, I thought they changed it to P. macrocarpa in their winter catelog, but I don't have it with me to check. Yes, I believe it is the same as "Lowlands" and the same as "Warmlands." Mine looks to be the same color as yours, but I wouldn't say that it is blue. I would characterize it as lavender, which I guess does have some blue it it, right? Mine is still turning out lots of buds in the greenhouse. I will post more pictures as they open.
Clare, this was another one of those project plants for me, so I got my hands on 2 or 3 plants by cuttings, and about another 20 or 30 that were grown by seed. Now to see what I can get out of all this. lol I have a certain few plants that I am determined to get in circulation, or for hybridizing and this is one of them. This is also the reason why I have so many Racemosa and Quadrangularis.
Mark
That is interesting, Mark. Good luck! It sounds like a wonderful and worthy project. I heard that the seeds from this P. macrocarpa does in fact come true to the parent so perhaps it is self-pollinating? It would be interesting to see if you can cross it with P. alata "Ruby Glow." I bet that would be a neat flower if it would work. I don't remember there being much pollen on my one flower, but I will check subsequent ones.
If only it were more cold-hardy. It seems it cannot survive outside in Zone 10, but it probably can in Zone 11. It seems really happy in the greenhouse though so perhaps it is meant to be a container vine.