this one is not named, but pretty just the same..lol
cindy
here is my 2nd ever bloom
I wish I could help you, but I don't name them. It's it pretty, does it have any perfume? That might help the person who will ID it for you, perhaps Carol Noel or Milan; they are both very good at that, I know a few, but afraid to stick my neck out, it may just get cut off. Norma
norma, it doesnt have a fragrance...lol...i sure wish it did....that would make it double nice....no name is ok with me...its still pretty
cindy
I would go in the direction of it being Hoya carnosa. Check for fragrance in the evening hours shortly before and after sun down, carnosa is a real stinker for some (to me very sweet smelling LOL) at those times.
Norma, remember in here it's a virtual neck :).
Milan
I like your direction, Milan...while not being an expert...it looks very carnosa-ish to me. The leaf looks as if it could even be a 'Krinkle 8'.
The current authorities/mavens/taxonomists are saying that all of the subspecies are not really relevant vis a vis the species.(.all of these thoughts based on conversations with David Liddle). "They" are eliminating subspecies altogether and say that if one hoya differs from another in at least /more 2 areas(like pollinia, calyx and other minute plant part s) that it will determine a separate species. Hmmmm. And...if you think of it...a H. carnosa 'Krinkle 8', 'Snoball', etc.etc.etc., they are ALL H. carnosa. Right? David, in his shade house, has ALL of the cultivars of H. pubicalyx, H. carnosa etc. but they are labeled H. pubicalyx, H. carnosa....not all of the names growers have given them. The plants are what they are: they grow, they evolve, they produce seedlings and they produce sport s....and they are still THAT species. Of course, this really foils people who count their collection in terms of "how many" they have....
I am totally rethinking (currently it is a muddle...st ill rethinking) how I view this naming game. As David says, 'the only correctly named hoya is the one that was used to produce the holotype for publication...the rest are....'.
I learned that hoyas are not static...they did not evolve to their present form in whichever species they are in and they remain there: all of them have so many variations and differences. H. macgillvrayii occupies a whole section in t he Liddle shade house - same plant, different leaves/flowers. The differences are subtle...but you could not match two of them as the same species unless you "knew".
So...yes...looks like H. carnosa to me....and a beautiful flower!!!! Milan is right...try the fragrance at night!!!!
Good growing!!!
