This seedling was looking good,and I could not figure out what was wrong.
Anyone want to guess what the problem with it is???
Want to guess?
I have no idea. I had some that looked just like that and blamed it on too much nitrogen.
Here is a top view.
Do you know? It looks like a burn - chemical or mechanical.
Did you have the sprinklers on it in the hot sun? Did your doggie go wee wee on it?
Good guess Susie,no cigar,no sprinkler or dog.
It was bugging me because the plant on either side looked so good.they were getting the same feeding and sun.
Sap of some kind from a tree hanging over?
Chemicals from the neighbors?
I'm dealing with something comparable, Root. I haven't fertilized for three weeks to eliminate fert burn as a cause.
No dogs, no neighbors, no sprinklers.....no idea.... The only thing is a family of woodchucks residing nearby but I don't see what they could do anyway. The seedlings are in five gal. pots, between five to seven feet tall, and sitting on landscape fabric.
The only thing I could think of was that I treated them with Sevin powder, very light sprinkle on the top leaves to discourage the earwigs, but that was a month ago and any evidence of the Sevin on the leaves was gone. But now they seem to have slowed their growth and while not exactly what you have, they show a rippling and puckering of some of the leaves on the top. There is also a little yellowing...
When I get a chance, I'll post some pics....
I have something similar going on with a couple of mine, and I think they're gonners. They are too tall to have been sprayed by a dog. I don't use chemicals, and the only ferts I use are organic, so I can't figure out what it ould be. Also, all my brugs are treated exactly the same with regard to watering, feeding, etc., and the ones on either side of this particular one look fine. Its very hit and miss in my garden...
I sprinkle Sevin powder in the top of my brugs to discourage earwigs, there is never any burn, only brown edges of where they chewed the leaves. I had mites, DH sprayed in the morning, a lot of the leaves were burnt from sun and chemical, so now he sprays in the evening. When the leaves were all puckered, it was spider- cyclamin - broad mites. They are all gone and I now have lots of "breeding" red/black dots ladybugs, whoopee........
Mine was simple,I knew I did not have any TAll dogs,it was a burn of some kind,this was what I saw this morning.
It could be a chemical burn but also nitrate overfeeding. It is not a disease.
Gretchen, besides the brown edges, your plant looks like she has a nutrient deficency. What do you feed? Did you check the ph value of the soil?
Yes Monika, it does appear to be deficient in probably iron. The thing that I don't understand is that within three feet on either side of it, the brugs are healthy... Its planted in a raised bed with amended soil. Our soil is very alkaline. Each week I feed a mix of Medina Hasta Gro (an organic, complete fertilizer for heavy feeders), bat guano (for nitrogen), liquid seaweed, Super Thrive, horticultural molasses (for the soil microbes), and once a month I add chelated iron. With the exception of mites on my Frosties, 98% of my brugs look great on this regime. I'm just beginning to wonder if its purely a failure to thrive. If it survives, its getting composted this fall anyway, as it did not provide interesting blooms. I was just curious as to what the problem is...Thank you for your advice!!! Gretchen
Root: Glad you figured out your problem -- that's an easy one to fix :)
Hey Root...
Oops....should have read more closely.... :)~
This message was edited Aug 10, 2004 3:46 PM
Oops...I thought it was solved :( I thought you figured out that its was the magnified sun rays shining throught the skimmer that was burning the leaves. Sorry!
Edited to add...duh...its the chlorinated water dripping off the skimmer................................................Did I mention that I'm blond?
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Gretchen,sounds like you are feeding them well,I have never used Bat Guan on Brugs,I would think that could be hot.I know it is one of the highest phos doos out there.
Well, I'm still confused as to why the vast majority of the brugs are doing so well, and I have three that are just failing to thrive... The bat guano is 11-4-1 and the Hasta Gro is 6-12-6. I can't imagine that it would be an overdose of phosphorus on just those three, but I guess anything is possible... Thanks again for your help, Monika!
Root -- thank you!!! I didn't mean to hijack your thread...sorry!
This message was edited Aug 10, 2004 2:59 PM
No way Gretchen,I love hijacks,that is how great info comes out.Keep it up,maybe we can get you an answer,I was mystified by my problem,boy I let out a big DUH when I saw this.
Thanks, Root...I just went out and looked at mine again, pulled those funky leaves off. I'm thinking I have a nitrogen deficiency again. We've had more rain, and I dosed them a couple of days ago with the guano. Hopefully they'll perk up when the sun returns... Brugs can be such a guessing game!
Typos, typos, typos. I need to slow down! LOL
This message was edited Aug 10, 2004 6:52 PM
hi it amost look like sun scald
I think it's chlorine from the pool. If that skimmer has water on it and it's leaking on the leaves it will do that!
Gretchen, organic fertilizer have to be transfered into mineral salts by microorganisms in the ground. The plants can feed only on the mineral form of the fertilizer. So it will take a while before you see the results of the fertilizing.
I use only one two fertilizers. The first has all needed ingredients and the second has Calcium + Salpetre. I use it to stabilize the ph-value.
Root, reading all of the above I guess you haven't figured out what the problem with your brug is. I'm sure i no help, at first glance i thought sunburn, then when you posted the picture with the skimmer I too though some kind of chemical burn dripping from the skimmer. Hope you can figure out what the problem is. Donna
Thanks, Monika... I'm definitely going to rethink the way I plant my brugs next year. I don't want to use chemicals in my garden soil, so I think the best thing to do is sink the entire pot in the ground like you do, and fertilize with a commercial salt base fertilizer :)