If I read the label right, H. Chen Mei? It is 3 nerved and 5" to the apex which points down. The veins, (nerves?) on the back side of young leaves are red, these are stiff leaves. I really couldn't read the first name.
H. sp. Borneo 'large green' which I think refers to the flower?
Ed Gilding Norma
Have you heard of this one?
I believe Hoya sp. Chien Mai (no it's not french for dog :) is actually the highly variable species Hoya pottsii (previously nicholsoniae).
Oh and there are also some unidentified species marked as sp. Chien Mai, Chieng Mai or Chiang Mai which indicates the location where they where supposed to be found.
There is a H. pottsii from CheingMai (this is spelled very differently by different folks). Often it is written H. pottsii CheingMai. I would guess that is what you have.
H. sp. Borneo from Ed Gilding refers to an Eriostemma ... he also called it H. sp. Apple Green 'Borneo; - he found it in Borneo. He is about to publish it as H. obtusifolioides.
There is a large flowering one and a smaller flowered one...but they are the same.
Hope this helps.
Thank you both, you betcha that helped. Norma
Hi Carol, hows biz? When will we know when Ed publishes H. sp Apple Green 'Borneo'.
Thanks for that tip,
Sylvia
Ah-ha...Sylvia...tis you! Well, if you want, I can let you know. It should be coming out in Askepios this year....
Carol
Biz is great, thanks.
Sylvia are you selling at this time. If so send me your catalogue? Norma
I also think Patricia Watson is selling
Debbie I'm sure is selling, gad she grows her plants well, it must be the water LOL
I have an interesting tip, that I must print here. I couldn't believe my ears. Are any of you entomotoligist (spelling) lets us know what ant give off in the way of fertilizer (chemicals) what kind of acid?
Formic Acid, Norma.
No...not an entomologist...but I am a Master Gardener...does that help?
I'[ve never heard of a sp. Chen Mei --- there is one once sold as "sp. Chieng Mai" (and also spelled Chiang Mai and Chieng Mei --- plus Xhieng Mai.
Some dodos are selling it as Hoya subquintuplinervis but that is wrong.
Sp. Chieng Mai is just a large leafed clone of Hoya pottsii. An employee at Kew labeled a picture of its presumed type to me and wrote on it, "This is the one pictured in Curtis' Botanical Magazine, tab. 3425.
As for it being "formerly Hoya nicholsoniae" -- that simply is not true.
Hoya nicholsoniae is a form of Hoya pottsii found in Australia, and was "sunk" into synonymy with Hoya pottsii in the early 1990s by Dr. P. I. Forster and David J. Liddle.
It is correct to say that Hoya nicholsoniae is a synonymous name for Hoya pottsii but saying that Hoya pottsii was "formerly Hoya nicholsoniae" is saying that before Hoya pottsii was named that it was called Hoya nicholsoniae, which isn't true. Hoya pottsii was named in 1830 (actual publication but the paper was actually read before and audiance in 1826). The name Hoya nicholsoniae did not appear until 1866, therefore Hoya pottsii could not have been "formerly" Hoya nicholsoniae.
Sp. Borneo could be anyone of dozens of species. All the "sp." means in a hoya listing is that the lister is saying, "I don't know what the heck it is." What follows the listing could be one of many things. In the case of H. sp. Borneo it means, "I don't know what the heck this is but it comes from Borneo." I've seen at least 20 different species so listed over the last 30 years.
Chris
I'm not an entomologist either but I do know that all forms of animal life eat at one end of their bodies and what they eat passes through their bodies and comes out at the opposite end. There is a four letter word, not used in polite society, for what that is but ants' fertilize some species of hoyas with theirs. They also bring their food into their nests, the scraps of which become fertilizer for hoyas (or for whatever host's roots they are nesting in).
One doesn't need to be an entomoligist to know that ants give off "formic acid." All it takes is a dictionary.
Ant is defined as, "Any of various social insects of the family "Formicidae."
Formic is defined as, "Of, or relating to ants."
Formic acid, per my dictionary, if "A colorless caustic fuming liquid (forumula given) used in dyeing and finishing textiles and paper and in fumigants and insecticides. (From its natual occurance in ants)."
Chris Burton