I am soon to receive an Alocasia "Sarian", a Alocasia Macrorrhiza, and three Alocasia "Calodora's". I realize that all of the plant sites state to plant in partial shade, but has anyone any experience planting these in full sun? How did they turn out, what are the problems, etc..
Bill
Alocasia's in full sun
They should be fine,keep the water to them.I would ease them into full sun if possible.
I grow them in full sun..just don't let them get too dry in the sun.
The sarian in the sun will be your biggest obstacle. But this is Florida sun. Your area may be different.
Alocasiaaddict,
Will the sun possibly burn the Sarian, stunt its growth, or what?
Bill
I have an Alocasia Amazonica that lost all it's leaves & went dormant after I moved it into a brighter area. I kept trying to find a good spot for it. It finally began growing again after nearly a year, now that it is in an extremely dim spot! It really hates any bright light. I am happy Alocasias come back after what surely would be death to any other plant!
Ok, heres the deal, Too much light will burn the sarian leaves and it will die and not come back. Too little light it will grow tall & spindly, die and not come back. HAVE FUN!
How about Alocasia calodora? I know it will not get as large as the Sarian,but do you think it will tolerate full sun better. Our summers here average high 80's low 90's, 60 to 75% humidity and moderate rainfall. The bed these plants will be in will receive sun all day. I am looking to grow these alocasia's as large as possible and need size balance in the bed.
AA:
Which Alocasias and Colocasias do you grow in full sun? I have more sun than shade so my Alocasias are in pots under my avocado tree, until I can find a more permanent spot in my yard for them.
Alocasias that will survive full sun are: Macrorrhiza, Odora, Alocasia Gold, Calidora, New Guinea Gold, Alocasia Black Stem, Cuculatta, Emerald Dwarf, Some Lutea. The others will be risky. Water them like crazy with NON-CHLORINATED water. Unless you have well water, your water has chlorine from the municipality. Leave out a bucket of water for 8 hours and the chlorine will evaporate. This is very important! Also, the leaves will not get nearly as big in full sun because they will require less surface area to accomplish the same amount of photosynthesis.
All Colocasias will do fine in full sun, constant water provided. Xanthosoma can also tolerate full sun.
Use the Sun Acclimation Schedule:
http://alocasiaaddict.com/files/caresheet.html
This message was edited Jun 19, 2004 1:06 AM
That's great information AA. Thank-you.
Excellent info. Thanks very much AA. Looks like my sarian will be planted in 50% shade area near my pond. I'll put one of my caladoras in the spot I had originally intended for the sarian.
Again, many thankyou's
Bill
No Problem, Any posting about Elephant ears I'm drawn to like a moth to a flame.
Thanks for the link to your site. I have well water, but I have lived where I had city water. I remember that most of my plants did not thrive there, but I did not connect the chlorine with it! Does flouride affect plants at all? We have extremely hard water - lots of iron. Is this beneficial? Just curious, and you seem to have so many answers. Thanks again for all the information. Julie
I have Alocasia Sarian and Lutea planted in filtered shade but they do get a bit of hot afternoon sun for a short while. As a result the Sarian developed a couple of sunburned leaves. The Lutea seems to be all right and is developing quite large leaves. Keep in mind that I live in Arizona where it gets very hot and the humidity is very low...and we get very little rain. I do keep them well watered and except for the scorched leaves they are thriving and developing new leaves. I plan to add a shade cloth to protect the Sarian while it is so hot.
Julie, Thats an easy question LOL. Here goes: In 1986 the effect of fluoride at different concentrations was studied on the incorporation of ammino acid into extractable pigments (chlorophyll and pheophytin ) in tobacco leaves. Fluoride at concentrations of 10 PPM (parts per million) to 15 PPM inhibited the incorporation of ammino acids into chlorophyll. At 10 PPM the effect of fluoride on ammino acid incorporation was greater than that of chloride. The inhibition on formation of cell walls by fluoride was similar to that found on chlorophyll indicating an effect on synthesis of chlorophyll rather than degradation. The effect of fluoride on individual enzymes in the chlorophyll biosynthetic pathway is discussed in terms of relation to the action of fluoride on cellular ultrastructure.
So, in a nutshell, Flouride is an inhibitor but Chlorine actually bursts the cell walls of chlorophyll and is more dangerous to plants than Flouride because it requires less PPM (parts per million) to cause damage to the cell wall of chlorophyll. Discolored leaves is usually the first visable signs of chlorine poisoning.
The iron question: Iron benefits carotenoid and lutein which in turn acts as an antioxidant that protect pigment levels. So that may actually be good for your plants.
Alocasia Sarian my first one died cause of water. second one died cause of sunlight, the thrid one died cause of lack of perlite and bark..."I guess" ... that is what the guy I got it from told me.....but my 4th one is living....=) it was free...I guess after spending 84 dollars on them you should get something free.... if it lives, get a BIG pot for it.....I think indirect light is the best light for them anyways.. I think it looks nicer small than big....
ely
I just needed one to die on me and i got rid of them. Don't want one THAT bad.
you know I think I have a problem. if its bigger I buy it if it has soemthing in pattern I like I buy it. if it dies I buy it... etc... I love those ears...
ely
http://www.agristarts.com/aloc_sarian.htm
http://naturalselections.safeshopper.com/51/301.htm?764
So, which one of these is the A. Sarian? They don't look the same to me.
Its the same, one is a juvenille, the other an adult.
Amazing. I should have read further. Thanks.
Woooooo....I'm wanting one of those!
Brinda, are you sure? Didn't you read the whole thread?
Yep...I'm sure! I read it! But I can still want one, can't I? I always want what is 'not best for me'!!! LOL
Heck, Why not try a Borneo Giant.
Thanks for the info on the iron, chlorine & flouride. The water in my house in RI was contaminated with e coli, so they loaded it with chlorine for months. I collected rain during that period - I figured if I wouldn't touch it, my plants shouldn't either!