got another camera, and finally Golden Lady bloomed :)
I know it's just a trick of the light, but I love the color.
Finally
And it looks like it's not ready to quit blooming! I like this pretty little lady, she packs a lot of scent too.
Beautiful for sure!! (love your pond too)
That is a very pretty brug and a great shot, seems like i should be able to smell it even. Donna
Oh it's beautiful!
I'm soooo excited ,mine is breaking out for the first time....
Beautiful bloom Vi!
It's beautiful Vi.
Linda
Thanks! Just one more for you to see the size of this beautiful little bloomer.
My word, that's pretty!!!
That is Amazing!!
Beautiful Vi,
I don't think I've ever seen such pronounced tendrils on both skirts. Fantabulicious !!!
Your Golden Lady is Gorgeous!!!!
very lovely Vi, thanks for sharing.
GL is a wonderful brug and a good bloomer. Be aware that she is one that will die from to much sun.
DonnaB... question, why do u say GL will die from too much sun? i thought Monika says, GL is a good candidate for the sun. now u got me confuse! someone pls. clarify this.
MVR- you need to remember that monika is in a much colder climate than you are. She is in 5a-it gets much hotter in zone 8 than 5.....that might explain the two differing reports
i understand that Jenks, but still that was a confusing statement. the way i understood it was, GL will perform in heat. having heard Monika mentioned about GL, i went ahead and planted my GL in the sun... so far it is doing good. i would still want someone more in the know and has more experience in growing GL to explain this to me. thanks anyway Jenks, i know u tried.
One of my favorite brugs. I had her in full sun last year and we had temps over 100 with heat index of over 115 and she did very well. I agree that there is a difference in zones, but once you hit 100.........anything is hot. LOL!
Goodness! "She will die?"
I gotta say, we had our first very high humidity 90' day and GL's 2 day old flower tips are turning brown. Is it the heat or humidity that does this? She is in very full sun and a short pot. I think I'll move her to be on the safe side.
Brugie and DonnaB, did y'all have yours in pots or the ground?
Just lovely! Congratulations!!!
Gretchen
Vi, mine was in a pot and had to be watered frequently.
thank you Shirley. i am worried cuz i have planted GL in the ground in a site where it gets full sun. i sure hate to move it again! i see buds formation, the move might put it into shock. as it was, it had difficulty getting acclimated from pot to the ground.
i planted GL in the ground after having read Monika mentioned it can take the heat.
I keep mine in pots and they go into filtered shade(Mimosa trees) about this time of year.Of course,this is true for every potted brug that I own.None of them stand full,all day Florida sun well.They don't die but the plant struggles all summer just to stay alive.
thank you JT... i guess i have to sacrifice the buds for now. if it gave me some buds once, i guess GL will do it again after it has recovered from the shock of being moved again.
although, i can say... GL seemed to be content and lusciously growing where it is... in full sun [north east ground area].
Mavie, Golden Lady performs very well in the Sun. Many doubles dont like full sun but GL and Tiara are the few exceptions. GL loves warmer temperatures, she takes full sun at Mme Blins place without problems.
thank you very very much Monika. am glad i have not moved it yet. i will take cuttings on side shoot and will grow some more just in case.
Golden Lady grown in full sun
Your GL looks good Mavie! You have a desert climate if I remember right!
yes, Monika. i live in the upper desert of So. California. up in the higher mountains, the altitude is 4,000 above sea level. i get both extremes between Winter [10ºF] and Summer [115ºF]. i am very wary of my growing conditions and take extra steps, if need be to grow brugs under my care. thank you very much for sharing ur wisdom, i for one deeply appreciate every info u share with us. TY, TY, thank you Monika =D!
I think, that you are handling it very well Mavie. We both seem to have extreme conditions for our plants and it always causes extra work to make them feel halfways comfortable.
isn't that the truth LOL!!! i wished i have ur wisdom to keep my plant more happier than they are. i do take notes on all info u share, apart from the books i bought from u. a few of the books i have shared with friends.
Holy moly Brugie! I didn't know it got that hot in zone5! But it does illustrate exactly the point.. Humidity sure makes it seem hotter than it is here! A lot of factors all influence each other which make ideal growing conditions differ.
Having said that-MVR-I was ony trying to say that full sun for someone here, might not feel the same to a brug in another climate, though it may also be in full sun. I didn't mean to appear as if I were attempting to discredit anyone, only give credit to everyone for what they've experienced. But what do I know? I am always trying to pick up pointers! ;)
Jenks, Brugmansia can take heat much better when it is combined with high humidity, appr. 70 - 80%. We seldom have here more than 35% humidity and a constantly blowing wind makes it very uncomfortable for the Brugmansias.
Well that's great news for me as I have little shade and my humidity is at 75% right now! But would it do better in shade, or does it only tolerate it?
In your book "Engelstrompeten", about Golden Lady you say"
"Slightly sensitive and slow growing hybrid with beautful flowers. In protected locations it will be a heavy bloomer."
I had assumed that by 'protected' you meant from hot sun and wind.
Where MVR is right now, the humidity is 23% today, the high was 92F, and is in the desert near Victorville and the Cajon Pass in southern California. So you don't think hers would do better in shade in those conditions?
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I'm not Monika, but I would say that for MVR, when the temps reach into the upper nineties and higher, some protection from the hot afternoon sun would benefit the brug. It would be great if we could just flip a switch when we wanted them to have some shade, but sometimes we have to deal with the elements the best we can. I don't have enough morning sun with afternoon shade, so mine just get sun and more sun.
Brugie, you just might be on to something there. I think we should be able to flip a switch for water, food and shade for our plants. Bet we see something like it in a few years, lol!
I have quite a few brugs planted in full sun, clay base soil and a good mulch, they are doing really good so far. For my pots however, I am now switching to afternoon shade. I want my blooms to last as long as possible.
Thanks everyone, for this discussion :)
I have an idea for a little experiment if MaVie is willing.
Since I am sending you a box this week,I will include a very small Golden Lady.Plant it in a pot and keep it in shade until it becomes re-established.Then put it in moderate,dappled shade and feed and water just as you do the other one.
Let's see what they both look like by summers end.Some interim pictures would be nice if you have time.
Jenks ... i live in the Upper Desert, NOT in the basin! Victorville is below 2,000' above sea level, whereas where i am is 4,000' above sea level... there is a lot of difference there! the area where i live has microclimate areas.
as often stated, each and everyone has their own way of taking care of plants. i have my way, so far, brugs and plants i grow are doing good. i have been growing brugs for 3 yrs. now, mostly are in the sun. they have performed well, i believe, since they have bloomed and grown nicely.
similar to Monika and Shirley, we have our obstacles and positive results from plant we have grown. realizing i am at a disavantage, far as climates are concerned, i do go out of way to treat my plants the best way i can.
JT, i have been experimenting a lot, i will be more than willing to take the test u have suggested. i got nothing to lose. i can always keep the forum notified on result/s of this experiment, backed up by photos from a digital camera.
maybe next year, i will do that as a project, plant duplicate of each variety: one in the sun and the other in the shade to see the difference in growth and blooms of each brug.
do not worry, i am not going out of way in doing this test. materials for planting are available at hand. i do not mind doing the test, since planting has given me so much pleasure. thanks in advance JT :).
Sorry MVR-I just cut and pasted from Hesperia website. If you wouldn't mind allowing us to compare yours with the ones here in high humidity, that would finally put and end to my fear of humidity. I am confused by what monika says because in her book she says that heat plus humidity equals browning edges on the blooms-but maybe the plant flourishes and she is now only speaking of the plant itself, not necessarily the blooms? Anyway, I used monika's book as a guide of what to plant where when I put mine in the ground, so I just wanted to get clear on it.
I have very little shade and the majority of my brugs are in full sun. not much I can do about it unless I were to put a tent up! They are doing pretty well now with the soaker hose-late afternoon they sometimes start to droop so I turn the soaker on for a few minutes and they perk up. That's as close to a switch for the watering part as I could get!
no need to apologize Jenks, that is the beauty of being a member of DG. all of us can shed light on how each and everyone in any kind of situation are able to grow brugs.
i do not doubt for a minute Monika's advice. i just try my best to do what i feel is fit to grow plants in. i do observe closely the behavior of each plant i grow. so far, all are fairing well, inspite of being in the sun. i do a lot of research online, in the hope to find answer to some nagging question/s in my head.
no 2 situation of growing can be the same. there are so many different factors involved... the type of soil, atmospheric pressure, and so many more i could not remember at the moment. my best advice for u is to observe ur plants, take note so next season u know what u will deal with and improve on it.
sorry Vi, i didn't mean to hijack ur thread.