Being a newbie. I have been fighting with leaf eating bugs on the Brug I planted out in my yard! I'm getting ready to set out a bunch more & don't want them to be lunch. I have used several things on the one planted out already but the leaves still look like swiss cheese. It's not slugs. HELP!
Bj
Can we use Systemic on Brugs?
I'd like to know too. My nursery guy gave me Hi-Yield Di-Syston, systemic insecticide granules and he says he uses it on 'everything'. I'm going to use it for aphids on a tree but I really wonder about the brugs, it takes care of so many bugs, I just don't want to use anything that will take care the brug...
I use them every chance I get! LOL.
No really, I hate to admit this as it is so un PC, but I love the Bayers Tree and Bush systemic but it does not touch mites. For that I use Bayer Rose systemic I. This one burns easily though because of the fertilizer in it so beware. Bayer has a new rose one, 3 in one, with a fungus systemic added.
Thanks Kell! This one does kill spider mites, thrips, and aphids and whiteflies, both of which I have, but the aphids are on a tree, but it's close to the brugs, soooooooo...I'm going to try it and hope that it gets what ever is chewing my brug leaves!! I will get the Bayer when I can find it...I'll probably get the 3 in one, for the fungus systemic, which I haven't had, but it stands to reason that I will in this climate...
I have uesed the bayer a few time I know it doesn't hurt the brugs weather it helps is a good questing my brugs most of any ways are to big to even worry about there not dieing and still blooming reguarly. I use more mulch and buy composted cow manure and top dress with that .
I used the Bayer All in One for Roses and Flowers (the same as 3 in 1, I believe) and my bug problems have virtually vanished EXCEPT for mites. They are not affected one bit by it. Now if I could do something about the wind damage, mine would be looking pretty healthy. I have tried just about every home remedy for the mite, and nothing has worked, so I finally bought some Garden Safe Rose and Flower miticide and it seemed to conquer for the moment. Funny thing, they are only on the ones that are currently blooming???
Well, that was a wealth of information! Thanks. So far no mites.
Knock on wood! Just something eating the leaves. I'll try the rose systemic, that's what I happen to have on hand. I just moved them out of the green hut today. It was getting too warm in there even with the window & door open & a fan going. I have 4 or 5 Orchids still in there on the floor that need to get outside somewhere. I should have taken a picture of my "sticks" they are doing fine. The person I got them from in Houston TX just told me last week that they might not be white. She had taken cuttings off of 2 bushes, A white & a peach. Out of 10 sticks I could have both!
Irish, One of the seeds I got from you sprouted this AM. The Versicolor peach X Equador pink I'm just so darned excited!
Bj
Gretchen, the Bayer Rose liquid, 3 in 1, which contains the insecticide, the fungicide and the fertilizer won't kill mites. But the Bayer Rose systemic granules (not liquid) that have insecticide and fertilizer (no fungicide) does kill mites.
I find that if I spray where I see mites with Avid, then dose the rest of my brugs with Bayer systemic granules, it keeps them from spreading. Caution, I have defoliated more than 1 brug by being heavy handed with the granules. The fertilzer is very strong for pottted plants.
don't i know that the hard way, Kell. did that mistake 2 yrs ago... which is why i don't use the granules anymore. i stick by the H2O2 and alcohol with some soap. at least that works for me and no problem whatsoever. i guess the dry and windy weather helps around here to avoid those bugs.
I am going to try your way maybe this weekend Ma Vie though I think MAYBE I finally got rid of my spider mites. This time they got me good, I did not catch them till 2 brugs were almost dead!
Tell me again the proportions. Please.
using bottle sprayer:
2 tbsp. H2O2 or alcohol
1 tbsp Palmolive soap [is wetter than water which is why everything u wash in it is squeaky clean] or lemon scent soap
1 tbsp MG 15/30/15
mix with 1 gal. water. then fill sprayer bottle with this mixture.
for foliar feeding:
1 c H2O2 or alcohol
1/4 c Palmolive soap
1/4 c MG 15/30/15*
* using the MG will be ur indicator on the foliar feeding bootle that the concoction has ran out. so refill again if need be. since u are spraying the bugs to go away, why not feed the leaves too LOL! several jobs incorporated into one.
be sure to alternate with H2O2 with alcohol.
Thanks Ma Vie, I have now copied it to my hard drive!
u're welcome Kell :). good luck on ur new venture. more power to u and Tom ;).
Kell: I will never use granulated anything, ever again! With what I went through with the dogs, and they are STILL trying to dig up brugs for the blood meal... Guess I'll just stick to this for now.
How much of the Bayer granules is too much? I've been adding it to the soil as I repot.
Gee Sue, I do not measure. I just throw some on top of the soil. I totally defoliated my Rk with it. I have had to rush in and scoop out the rest off the top of the soil in the past. I wonder if you mix it all thru evenly, it will be fine. I may have had too much in one pile. I now try to spread it evenly over the top.
Ma Vie.. what MG stand for? LOL.. I am trying to find a way to kill the full blowed of SPIDER MITES on my most brugs!!!! Sobbing.. Man, they are hard to rid of..
M iracle Grow
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If you don't have it, U can use MVR's solution without it .
U need to spray every 3 days for about a week to get the hatchlings.
OH.. me Duh!
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big hug
>^,,^< SB
when u put MG on the foliar sprayer bootle with the H202 or alcohol, it is easier to see if u ran out of solutions, otherwise u will only be using plain water. color of MG is good indicator to know the solution is still in the bootle. plus u are killing 2 birds with one stone, so to speak: u are getting rid of the bugs at the same time foliar feeding the leaves and root of ur plant. go check the 'AP works wonders' thread. there is formula there.
thanks Scot, just got back from the store.
MVR,
What didja buy me ? LOLOLOL The Clary Sage is getting HUGE buds on it. Thanks again, that is one neat plant .
MiniS,
You should use the MG as MaVie says, I just wanted you to know that
if your mites are that bad you can start spraying and killing them right away ,
until you get MG. Who doesn't have MG anyway ?
>^,,^< SB
Scot... didn't buy much, just groceries and some junk food. last week UPS person came by. brought me a surprise package, apparently ordered and bought for me by my son... an electric tiller. been busy assembling and learning how to use it. the reason why i did not go grocery shopping last week. i've busy diggin away GF LOL!
yeah Trish, use the formula i have cuz it is cheaper. for all u know u got every ingredient in ur house. no need to buy anything. if u do not have MG, try natural food coloring - that works too. although i have not personally try using nat. food coloring myself. if u alternate H2O2 and alcohol, every other day or everyday the better. in no time u do not have them pesky bugs!
Ok.. I have everything that I need to start mix and spray.. so how often I should spray.. every 3 days or what? LMK..
Tricia
Trice ... am not familiar with ur area, where i live, since there is too much wind and hot sun, i spray everyday. if ur plants are heavily, infested, i will spray everyday or every other day. spray on top and under the leaves. spray only either early in the morning, no sun, or late in the afternoon.
MaVie, your formula is great, but, since it's a multi purpose, time saving spray, I wonder if you could add a few more things - 1) something to heal blisters 2) an energizer and 3) something that will help me loose weight...ya think??!! I think you could make a fortune, just imagine, a bug killer, fertilizing spray, that will heal sore hands, pep you up and is guaranteed to take off 10lbs...
the formula above is not spray. u pick the bugs with tweezors, then place them in that bathe! early each morning i do my rounds prior to watering. hand pick each bug i can find and put them in the bathe container. it gives me the ickky feeling to step on them. the mere sight of them make me cringe!
in the orient, if we want to lose weight, we drink lime juice as is to lose weight 1st thing in the morning, before we take anything. drinking a lot of tea in the span of the day also help lose weight cuz tea help digest all the food taken in. ginger tea on the other hand, cleanses all the slimy gunk clinging to the walls of our stomach. things i have learned from my grannies.
the thought of making a fortune is not my forté. sharing info and helping other is!
i do not have blisters on my hand, inspite of all the work i do alone around here. i wear gloves all the time.
In my area.. it's sun, no windy and humid. I would spray on them in the late evening every days until I get them all gone!
Actually, MaVie, my blisters are on my feet. I started wearing flip flops again and since I didn't wear them all winter, my feet are very tender!
About your formula, you posted:
using bottle sprayer:
2 tbsp. H2O2 or alcohol
1 tbsp Palmolive soap [is wetter than water which is why everything u wash in it is squeaky clean] or lemon scent soap
1 tbsp MG 15/30/15
mix with 1 gal. water. then fill sprayer bottle with this mixture.
Yesterday, you posted:
the formula above is not spray. u pick the bugs with tweezors, then place them in that bathe!
I realize I am green, but I'm WAY greener than I ever imagined. I thought your formula was a spray to use directly on the plants and I sprayed it on my hibiscus yesterday - is it going to kill them??? The reason I used the formula is because I haven't seen any bugs on my plants and since I didn't know what to treat the plants for, I thought this formula would work for all kinds of bugs. Gosh, I'm so glad i found out before i sprayed the entire garden...
Sherry,
this formula is for spidermites, whiteflies, aphids, etc [softbodied bugs], not caterpillar either.
About your formula, you posted:
using bottle sprayer:
2 tbsp. H2O2 or alcohol
1 tbsp Palmolive soap [is wetter than water which is why everything u wash in it is squeaky clean] or lemon scent soap
1 tbsp MG 15/30/15
mix with 1 gal. water. then fill sprayer bottle with this mixture.
i had posted another formula yesterday about the Jap. bettle bug, my bad! way too many threads going on, i am beginning to get confuse. Jap. bettle are not affected by the above formula. u need to hand pick the Jap. beetle or caterpillar w/tweezors then drop them inside a container filled w/the following: 1 c water, 1/2 bleach, 1 tbsp soap
sorry about the confusion, it is my bad not ur :).
This is GREAT news MaVie and absolutely NO problem!!! I'm delighted to know that the H202 or alcohol and soap formula is okay to use. I have several plants living under a tree where birds roost and I've been using the recipe to clean those plants, as well as treat them for bugs and I do think my bug situation is better than it has been...
(I hope I didn't send this post twice, I thought I had already sent it)