Need help IDing couple hibiscus (not tropicals)

Crestview, FL(Zone 7b)

and not looking for cultivar name.. species would be great..

see these posts.. two different plants.. both unknown

http://davesgarden.com/fp.php?pid=891571
http://davesgarden.com/fp.php?pid=891572

Hillsboro, OH(Zone 6a)

I think you have Hibiscus acetosella, also called cranberry hibiscus.

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